0:00:01 Unknown_01: All right. This is everybody. It's Ben Shapiro. The first ever exploring the brave, bold, new frontier of a logging Ben Shapiro. Unknown_01: Josh asked me this, or is anyone ever actually even attempted day log Ben Shapiro? And you were telling me that people in the Ben thread were upset. They're like, what do you mean, Josh? We were, we've been doing really good work, bro. Unknown_03: No, it was the people in the Keno Casino thread. They all tagged me after you said that. The people in that thread. The subhuman swine in that thread. 0:00:33 Unknown_03: They're great. They were like, how did you not know about the, I guess, cause it's just so popular. Everyone makes one of them, but like, I don't know if anybody like in the I dub sense, like actually watches his content to try and see like how bad it's gotten. Cause the last thing I remember about Ben Shapiro was that they, the daily wire laid off like more than half its staff, like 60% of its staff got fired and they were downsizing. And, um, you know why, right. 0:01:07 Unknown_03: Because of the boring spent like $150 million on his game of Thrones knockoff show, the pen dragon or whatever the. Unknown_01: And just like bankrupted the company. Yeah, bro. He poured like over a hundred million dollars into it. And the, it doesn't show like the CGI is not very fucking good. And this is the thing is all these guys are like Hollywood rejects. And they're all like theater kids and they all had dreams that they were going to be big stars in Hollywood and write screenplays and they got rejected and their cope for it is it's because they weren't woke, but it turns out they actually were just talentless fucking hacks. And so now they've had to go into show business for ugly people, which is politics and try and scam fucking boomers out of their pensions or whatever. 0:01:51 Unknown_03: is basically what this is yeah i i had heard of their very terrible idea to knock off bluey which was just the most like profoundly retarded thing because yeah so it's called banner key then you heard of this bent key is there so i actually was a subscriber to their service because i wanted to see all of this yeah i had like a daily wire plus Unknown_01: uh subscription because i wanted to see like lady ballers and i wanted to see like the jordan peterson bible blasphemy series normal person well i wanted to have the full daily wire plus experience of being a goy slave to israel okay and uh it was all abysmal you see there's like a movie on there about like a school shooting called like run hide fight back where it's like this like boomer conservative power fantasy of like fighting back against the school shooter with your own that's the actual like the federal guidelines for school shooters is run hide fight back like if you're cornered and they're going to kill you they like the official government instructions is to go fucking ape shit like that's actually what they tell you to do think they also had like mr bertram on there but what you're talking about um they intended to their idea was they're going to compete directly with disney plus and so it was an additional charge on top of your daily wire plus subscription because of course it was where i think it was like an additional 20 a month you got something called bent key which was like a streaming service for children and they were supposed to have like dozens of different shows on there for kids i never actually watched any of that um but i can't imagine it was any good you're saying they did a knock off of bluey on there yeah so they said that bluey was woke which is just preposterous it seems to be a universally praised television show likes it so there's a strike against it right there 0:04:07 Unknown_03: It's like a kids show but a lot of what they say is like for adults But not like a like in a dark way like in a sort of like acknowledging Parenthood type of way so It's it's one of those only shows I can think of that like parents on both sides have kind of just prays for being like a good Kid show because most kids shows are just fucking abysmal YouTube slop these days And that's exactly what this fucking looks like if you look at the screenshots of this it just looks all yes Unknown_01: so it does not look very good and they tried to make it like judeo-christian and and it's just like yeah if you're gonna like if you're gonna try this is not you know if you're gonna try and make like a base alternative to like kids show slop for your your series you shouldn't go after like the only good one you know what i mean like you should try to do something original or take it i mean Unknown_01: I don't know. I mean, this is cringe, but like the most basic bitch idea I could have would be like to remake it like Liberty's Kids and do like the American Revolution and the history of it or the Civil War and the history of it and have like a cartoon like that, like historical. education for kids but like that's not even what kids want you know what i mean like that's what autistic kids like me like i like that fucking shit but uh yeah you have to be careful with children's media because if you do that too hard it becomes like veggie tails or it's just like obvious it's like a 0:05:20 Unknown_03: you know, like a thing built not for entertainment, like for its own intent, but for a political or religious purpose, which kids can tell, like even little kids can watch VeggieTales. The thing is though, like VeggieTales at least had its own following. Unknown_01: Like people, like kids did actually like it. You know what I mean? At least some kids did. Unknown_01: Whereas this stuff with like Ben Key, it's like no one's ever going to like this shit. No one's ever going to enjoy this stuff. Unknown_03: Like it's... you were right ben key is like their cartoon network it was called chip chilla okay that's that's even more embarrassing yeah they have like multiple it was supposed to be dozens of different kids shows now i'm not sure if they actually followed through on this promise but did they do multiple different shows i think this is what actually bankrupted the network like i think this is all of the money went to this 0:06:34 Unknown_01: And it's like, you guys had like budgets of hundreds of millions of dollars. You could have indefinitely produced podcast slop of some guy in a fucking room talking into a microphone, you know? Unknown_03: Yeah. Like if you want to go that route of being like a kid's entertainment show that captures like a conservative adult parent audience which i suppose is kind of like a noble aspiration you start on youtube there's no reason why chip chilla can't be a youtube show this shouldn't be hidden behind a paywall right like you're not going to actually get a mass market audience and it seems to me like they're confused between like just straight up pandering to conservatives but then also wanting to have like mainstream appeal and they're caught in like a weird middle ground with it where they can't really 0:07:25 Unknown_01: Appease anybody and it doesn't I'm a little bit sympathetic towards the idea of trying just to make shit that people actually enjoy But the model of like let's make Disney Plus But for the daily one is just a preposterous idea it with real kids media these days You have like miss Rachel who's just independently successful in her own making her YouTube show Do you know who miss Rachel is and then she? Unknown_03: Miss Rachel literally was just some, some theater lady from New York city. And she did, I think she had a child herself and the child had difficulties with speech. So she did her own YouTube videos about practicing speech. And these were so successful that they became multimillion dollar like productions that were, but they made tons of money, but it was literally just her dancing in front of a green screen and singing. Cause she was like a singer, like she did theater stuff. and they became so successful netflix picked her up and now she has like if you go to like the toy section of walmart in the us they have miss rachel plushies and and it was just some lady in new york doing her own show but it was so successful and parents watched it that it became independently um a multi-million dollar project and you have other stuff like that um where you have little youtube shows i think the other one is like blippy he's like some dude and i think the story was blippy 0:08:44 Unknown_03: Blippi got um got into trouble because I think the actor he Had made crass YouTube videos where he was like like shit himself or something like one camera Oh, so when that when they found that video they had to replace Blippi, but like He started doing his thing because he was watching what his cousin was doing, like watching on YouTube and was like, this is such shit. I could literally just film myself going to museums and this would be a better show than what my cousin's watching. So he did it and he became a multimillionaire because of his show. So my thought is like, okay, you want to do kid shows and you want to make them conservative and not slop. great that's a very noble endeavor why not make them small shows that you put on youtube and make money off of from an existing audience and then if it becomes very successful you can try to do the daily wire plus thing do certain chip chilla episodes on daily wire plus give the 8k versions of the show 0:09:38 Unknown_01: Yes. Like maybe do like a movie or something like that, that you put on there or a special event episode or something. It's not even a bad idea. Unknown_03: I think it has an audience, but they lack business sense, which is incredibly insane. Cause they're fucking Jewish. Like, what are you doing? Unknown_01: I think that's part of the problem though, is like, I hate to say Nick Fuentes talked about this where I don't even think they really need to turn a profit. because ultimately even if daily wire goes bust like ben shapiro is not going to go away somebody else will you know bankroll him and make him a mouthpiece for zionism you know what i mean like they don't necessarily have a need to turn a profit because it's not really about making a profit it's about spreading a political message i actually i don't know i mean that's what fuentes is saying but it feels like i don't know it feels like the the grip has has lessened in a way you know what i mean it definitely feels like at some point the jews have that actually have the money have to sit down and be like is ben shapiro furthering our ambitions cost effectively and i would have to say absolutely not he's not i feel like it's almost the opposite where he's actually like so ineffective that he makes those views like really cringe in lane yeah you know like it's if you hear like ben shapiro and laura loomer are like endorsing something you're like oh god that must be the worst thing that's ever fucking happened You know, and I feel like they're just really unlikable people and they're just very like ugly, you know, like Ben's fucking eyebrows, just his whole way of going about everything. And of course, like Laura Loomer is like a fucking bogged jigsaw abomination from hell. right yeah but uh yeah like jeremy boring up big time with this whole like media empire expansion i also think like getting rid of candace owens who is one of the most popular people on the network was not wise you know and evidently not because she's it's so the candace owens is nuts so to me because she will always be the social on the plantation yes It is crazy how far she went. 0:11:25 Unknown_01: It really goes to because like these people were like some of these people were in the sector, you know what I mean? And then they go on to do like all sorts of crazy shit. But I think Daily Wire made a real mistake by not being able to corral Candace and keep her ass on the fucking plantation for them. uh because she went on to just blow up massively and now it's poisoned a lot of people against daily wire that might have you know been in the fold for them and then they had that same dispute with what's her the other lady's name brett cooper i think she was somewhat popular and they had a dispute with her as well and then you know like jordan peterson has had like a mental crisis slash breakdown so he's not contributing to them either so there's a fall off there um so you've got basically like ben shapiro michael knowles and uh of course the i think the most popular guy what's his name 0:12:59 Unknown_03: Here's the current personality list. Ben Shapiro, John Bickley, and Georgia Howe, Isabel Brown, Reagan Conrad, Matt Fradd, Andrew Clavin, Michael Knowles, Jordan Peterson, Cabot Phillips, and Matt Walsh. Unknown_01: matt walsh is the is the big one and and the respectable name and uh like his uh his documentaries have you seen his his little documentaries that he's done who's like what is a woman and uh am i racist yeah they're very much they're not very productive they're funny though I thought, I thought the second one was very funny. The, am I racist one? I thought it gave me a vibe of like a, a Sasha Baron Cohen film maybe, but like, you know, conservative kind of cringe core. Uh, I actually saw that in the theaters and I, I enjoyed it, but yeah. Um, but yeah, I mean, it really has come down to like nearly everybody that you just listed has no name recognition whatsoever. I don't know any of them. 0:13:38 Unknown_03: besides matt walsh jordan peterson ben shapiro michael knowles and andrew clinton like i do know those names but as for the rest of them like i have no clue and they're really just like puppets that are only known because they work at daily wire and they just have no audience of their own i don't think and uh yeah it just feels like this network is in like basically a terminal decline like i don't think that boring left the company 0:14:34 Unknown_01: Did he just leave? Is he done? He left in 2025. Yeah. He's gone. Unknown_01: Really? He's totally done. I didn't, I didn't know that. I thought he was still clinging on. Unknown_03: Does the current CEO of the Daily Wire ship in it still though or is he just he stepped away he I think he still has ownership but he stepped away from the day to day operations I always thought it was crazy that like Shapiro wasn't the main owner of his own network that like Jeremy Boring was like his boss. Well, it could have been like a AVGN thing where it's like you would be like, why isn't the nerd the guy that runs the company? Then you find out, oh, because he was a hack. 0:15:06 Unknown_03: yeah he's basically outsourced everything to a company that does everything for him and that's the thing like if you are uh in a position where it's like okay like i could be responsible for prepping and producing my own show every day and having to search out my own sponsors and having to run the whole business side myself and in the production and everything or Unknown_01: i can just go to the studio the show is ready for me the talking points are prepared i read them off the page and collect a massive check and everything's just that's i'm guessing what ben was like why would i even bother if i'm guaranteed multiple millions of dollars to just show up and and do the show every day they have right they have 115 employees 0:16:03 Unknown_01: and that's outrageous that's outrageous waste there's no need to have so many employees for something like this that's basically just a guy giving his political opinion every day you gotta ask like what the are these people doing yeah there's gotta be a guy to serve ben coffee there's gotta be a secretary and a whole admin team so that you feel like a big man and like this right Unknown_03: It makes you really wonder where they get their money from. Cause if you think of like 115 people, and then it comes out by like, I mean, it really, it does. Cause you take 115 people and you multiply that by like the median income in the United States. And then you come out with like this ridiculous fucking figure. Unknown_01: You know, they're paying them like ridiculous money too. Like, you know, right? Well, at least the face, especially at least the on-air talent for sure. They might be cheaping out when it comes to the, the water boy in the office or some shit like that. but it's like the same thing with like colbert and why that show had to be cancelled they had like 230 staff for a show that could be done by one man in reality like yeah you just like a a lean team you just need colbert you need a writer you need the music guy you need some of the production staff but that's it i in in all seriousness there shouldn't be any need for i feel like more than two dozen staff to produce that show 0:17:03 Unknown_01: And I feel like that's even an exaggeration. It's probably emotional at a certain point. Unknown_03: Like you bring these people on, you know them and they're like your employees and you're like, you feel bad about letting them go when you realize that you fucked everything up. Unknown_01: I think a lot of it is like with, with like Jeremy Hambly, like the quartering and stuff, it's like a vanity thing where you need to feel like you're a big shot and you're powerful and you need people to kiss your ass all day and tell you how great you are. Unknown_01: I feel like that's a large part of it because you have guys that have operations where there's no overhead. They're just raking in dirty amounts of money. That's just pure profit. And then they decide to create huge overheads and expenditures for themselves that they really don't need to do with weird vanity projects, like coffee companies, like Tim pool. It's the same thing, like, uh, the coffee, the skate park, the fuck it. You know what I mean? And it's like, all that you really have to do is just give your opinion and collect the checks. 0:18:05 Unknown_03: But for whatever reason, they don't want to do that. They want to become sort of cultural phenomena that integrates into people's lives somehow, like in a more meaningful way, which is like really hard to accomplish. And I don't know, to a certain extent, there's a value in trying new things and trying to grow your company. But with The Daily Wire, I haven't like... don't know it's just it's really misguided and it's based upon this this concept that if they try to do a subsidiary business it's definitely going to succeed when it's like you have no idea you know you have no idea if that's going to convert at all you have to be ready to shut it down if it doesn't i feel like they were gaining a success a significant subscribership at one point 0:18:48 Unknown_01: two daily wire plus. And then I think it's just the last number of years, like they've just, the, the public sentiment has just really shifted against, um, like this Zionists old guard, right wing. You know, like, I just feel like let's, let's watch something real quick, like five minutes of something else. 0:19:27 Unknown_03: And then, um, we can switch back to this cause I watched this video and it was, um, relatively interesting. Unknown_03: Uh, in the first bit, this one, all the haters can kiss my ass. Now watch all of his videos. They have like, like 10 to a hundred thousand views, except these random ones that say been on them. I guess they're a part of his like main series or something, but this one got like his actual like podcast. 0:20:14 Unknown_01: Right. That I think does pretty good viewership, but then you see like his other random videos, like the views are low, especially when like, doesn't this channel have like 5 million subscribers? Unknown_01: Seven, 7 million subscribers. Unknown_01: Yeah. And yet we're sometimes like struggling to break 10,000, a hundred thousand views. And you'll see like a lot of the comments on these videos are just clowning on them. Like the majority of like this one, it was, I went to go look at them. 0:20:45 Unknown_03: They are making fun of them. This one's called all the haters can kiss my ass. I want to watch just like the first five minutes. I think it is. Let's watch, let's watch this. Unknown_00: Well, hello, everybody. You know, sometimes here on The Ben Shapiro Show, we cover the news. He's so ugly, by the way. No, he really is like these eyebrows, bro. The Daily Wire, you might have noticed, has been the subject of a bunch of hits. Unknown_03: This was after the layoffs were announced. Unknown_00: There was one from the Washington Post, and there was one from Puck, and then, finally, there was an especially ridiculous one from the stellar journalist at New York Magazine, who literally plagiarized their hit piece from the Washington Post. Literally? So... much journalisming, high-level journalisming. Well, this morning, that New York Magazine piece is lighting up the interwebs. It's lighting up X. Well, New York Magazine claims there was a time when Ben Shapiro could reasonably call himself the king of all conservative media. I don't remember that time, but it sounds cool. Oh, come on, Ben. 0:21:24 Unknown_03: Come on, Ben. That sounded a lot like for Shada, too, when he said that. Unknown_00: Conservatism isn't traditional conservatism. You know, like free markets. Unknown_00: Equal rights before law, like checks and balances. Oh God, it's all so cringe. Oh God. It is. Nick Fuentes, confirmed Nazi stan, woman hater, and man who will never be able to get a human woman pregnant through natural means. Or Tucker Carlson, confirmed anti-capitalist and Muslim apologist, Oh, fuck. 0:21:55 Unknown_01: What a retard alert, buddy. From fucking Ben. We have to worship the free market above all. Calling Megyn Kelly a grandma Nazi sympathizer. 0:22:31 Unknown_00: It retains a significant foothold among Republican elites, and it is being fast projected by the future grassroots of the party. Yes, it is true, Ben. The positions that we take here on the show are reflective of the broad majority of Republicans. That's just the reality. Unknown_01: Maybe right now, Ben, but we're talking about the future. We're talking about young people. Unknown_00: And that really sucked. It was truly sad because all those people are- So it was 13% of their entire workforce, but like half of their Nashville workforce, I think it was. It's tough. It's bad for them. It's bad for us. Why is he even addressing this? He made him look bad, I guess. His hat gets bigger every time I see him. Or maybe in the case of Nick Fuentes, a victory celebration with Catboys and Lubricant. 0:23:08 Unknown_03: Get him, Ben! Get him, Ben! I figured you'd appreciate that one. Unknown_00: Let's go! He's such a cunty, catty, like, you know, he's so passive-aggressive. 0:23:41 Unknown_01: With his robot voice. His Sheldon Big Bang Theory voice. Yeah. Unknown_03: He's humble bragging. Like, they only care that we laid people off because we're so big to begin with. To take an example from that same chart, is ranked fourth globally. Unknown_00: But if you're doing so good, Ben, then why are you laying people off, Ben? We're killing it. So Matt Walsh was responsible for those, not you. Yeah. Unknown_00: See, here's the thing. There's no national media coverage. If a top Candace Owens producer and her manager quit, or if Megyn Kelly's YouTube account starts shedding tens of thousands of subscribers a month. Well, that's what happens to you, though. What? We all have our fan base. 0:24:14 Unknown_03: Everyone watching Tucker is from Pakistan. Unknown_00: People have significant audience numbers, but they don't have any real institutional influence. They are not institutions. Unknown_01: Okay, but that's not what we're saying, Ben. And that's not really a good thing. You know, like... 0:24:47 Unknown_01: Well, we're actually in the pocket of the elite. We have institutional influence with the insiders in Washington. I'm sure. I'm sure that's what people want to hear. We hate the insiders in Washington. We hate the institutions. That's why Trump was elected in the first place was because people hate the institutions. They hate the swamp. They want to drain the swamp. Like, I don't know if painting yourself as having institutional influence when the institutions are rotten and disgusting is the play exactly. Unknown_03: you know he's showing that he's a voice for the voiceless and affecting actually causing productive change in the government but no he's not the voice for the voiceless like he's the voice of the well-to-do and the establishment like that's he's the establishment mouthpiece and that's basically the argument that he's making essentially is like well i'm relevant because i represent the people who really do have power okay 0:25:41 Unknown_00: We have our ups, we have our downs, but as Mark Twain put it, the reports of our death are greatly exaggerated. Unknown_03: But here's- Oh, that's cool. I have to say that, that's hurting. Unknown_00: Something very clear going on here. The media left and the woke right, that'd be like, The woke right. Unknown_03: It's such an awful term. Unknown_00: Oh, God. The new left. This rhetoric's not going to work. That's the whole thing here. See, the Daily Wire is the largest traditional conservative media company in the digital space by like a ton, by leaps and bounds. We are multiple times the size of any of these others. We have lots of conversation on our platform between our various hosts about topics ranging from AI to the Middle East. and Catholicism, and Judaism, and all of it. There's a lot of rich disagreement here at The Daily Wire. But in the end, what we stand for here at The Daily Wire is pretty simple. Truth, and virtue, and freedom. 0:26:21 Unknown_01: Right. As opposed to the left. Unknown_00: The old left, the horseshoe. We're doing the Sargon rhetoric about the horseshoe and shit. Unknown_01: It is their goal in life. Unknown_03: Horseshoe right is a much better term linguistically than woke right. Yes, 100%, 100%. Unknown_00: From Nick Fuentes to Tucker, from Candace Owens to New York Magazine, from the Washington Post to Megyn Kelly, they see an opportunity, an opportunity to supplant traditional conservatism with a conspiratorial... 0:27:02 Unknown_03: I think Ben's trying to say that he's under attack from the woke left and the woke right. In Megan's case, just make some quick clicks in cash. Unknown_01: It's a loop. But Ben, like, what do you think the base of the GOP is actually like? They are conspiratorial. Unknown_00: Like, yeah, they're always happy to run this grift because they love like there's a disconnect. Unknown_01: between this person that's like elite ivy league educated hyper intelligent well-read and like the actual average person that votes for the republican party and donald trump like they don't like this they don't want to be talked to like this this is like for uh people in the beltway this is for people who back in the day would read the national review and like took it seriously you know what i mean it's so funny if you actually drive through dc and scan the fm channels there are so many they're like multiple fm channels entirely dedicated to just like covering the internal politics of the different agencies and like what's happening in them 0:27:39 Unknown_03: it's really weird it's really jarring because you don't ever hear about that but then when you're specifically in dc people literally tune into the shows to hear about their agency and the that's happening it's really it's uh i don't know it just never occurred to me before i went there Unknown_01: i feel like the only broad appeal that shapiro has is like destroying college kids with facts and logic i feel like that's where he goes viral but yeah go ahead but he stopped doing that he got supplanted by that other guy the change my mind guy what's his name crowder and uh and charlie kirk as well yeah charlie kirk then he killed him well nobody's gonna be doing it for a while now because they'll be scared to get shot um yeah destiny tried 0:28:47 Unknown_01: Yeah, I don't think he'll be doing that though, Willie. I mean, he did for a while. Unknown_03: I don't know what happened with that. Have you been following like this? Unknown_01: I haven't really been able to make heads or tails of what's going on with him. Do you know what's going on with him in the last couple of days? Like what the fuck is going on? Like I saw the smoke and I started asking where the fire was. Unknown_03: Here's the gist. I don't know exactly what happened in his court case, but they said it wasn't good. I think it was supposed to be like, yeah, I think I was supposed to, my take is that she's in a bad place. Um, cherry, I think her name was, I think she's in a bad place with the lawsuit and it's unlikely that she will succeed. However, it was supposed to be like, this is a weird comparison. It's supposed to be like the Ukraine war. It's supposed to be a three day military operation where destiny comes in with the big dick lawyers and just shuts that shit down immediately. And now we're in like year three, two or three of this fucking lawsuit. and it's like you know the facade of this being a slam dunk she's making up it's like a war of attrition he's yeah and his his inner his inner cadre of like dick suckers are starting to break rank and question him very publicly and amongst themselves and with other you know competition in his world and he's freaking out about it i think he docked somebody and somebody was like that wasn't righteous of you you know that was that guy didn't deserve to be dox We would have co-signed it if he had but you picked a bad target and he just expected everybody to go along with it So he's he's crashing out over that probably stressed out by the lawsuit because it's just he's constant He's being dragged behind the fucking truck of justice at this point. It's like even if he survives it. It's gonna be like Terrible for him by the end of it. But um, there's that and then 0:30:05 Unknown_03: I think it's just like a lot of, a lot of people are making their, their like crossing the Rubicon moment where they're trying to take swipes at them. That should have been in lockstep behind them. And he's really pissed off and he's, he's going on huge diatribes about how we have to like out the motherfuckers that are conspiring against them. Like he's going like full Fuhrer bunker over, over the shit. Unknown_01: I heard that there's some fellow named Connor, like part of the reason why I find this, uh, undecipherable is that I don't know. Who any of these people are like, I've never followed this. And so I don't know like who Connor is, but I guess like he leaked DMS and like destiny was like doing age play with some Gropers wife or something. And then Lauren Southern resurfaced somehow and was involved. Somehow Lauren Southern returned. no somehow though like what the fuck bitch like what are you doing out here and i try and like you know like i read her book and i'm like try and give her the benefit of the doubt be like oh okay lauren like you were fucked up but now you're trying to figure it out but no like i don't know how this can take like how you continue to make so many bad choices in a row to go back to steven if that's actually what happened i haven't even heard that so i i can't i i this is the thing like i see like posts on twitter saying this stuff 0:31:44 Unknown_01: then like i'll go to kiwi farms and i'll be like what's going and like there's not really like a succinct explanation of what's happening and then like you go into the twitter threads and you scroll through and it's like so context reliant on that you need to know like a lot of lore about him and the people around him so Unknown_01: don't even know i'm probably just gonna throw my hands up on it and just wait until like somebody explains it to me properly honestly uh it's it's really convoluted it's hard to explain but the gist is that he's under a lot of stress apparently his family's getting spotted again there's a bunch of yeah a bunch of kerfuffle about all sorts of connor i've heard of he's doing streams where he's like 0:32:38 Unknown_03: Like he's supposed to be a, a bootlicker and he's directly throw in like insults and like debate, bro. And destiny alive and holding his own. And it's supposed to be like, Connor's even to them, Connor's like a huge fucking nobody. So the fact that he's like standing up against destiny and making fun of them as like a huge thing, or it's like, you're not supposed to do that. Cause he's like your king. So I just have to ask, like, destiny's made a lot of money, right? Unknown_01: yeah why doesn't he just get off the internet and just go enjoy his money in like south beach or whatever i don't know why like he continues to persist in in public life well ben shapiro though hasn't been exposed as a goon clown that's doing like oh that's not him sucking people's dick and that's not his off of grinder what would you say his issue is 0:33:33 Unknown_03: destiny would be completely okay if that was the extent of it like his community does not care they call him their his little their little goon clown like they make fun of them for it but they're like he you know he's he's our little gooner he's our little goon boy that's so that's him like they were all aware of this they were all aware that he did like math and it was like it was like an open secret right it wasn't even an open secret he was just openly swinging and and everyone knew but the only thing that got him in trouble is i think her name is cherry uh she Was there was one girl that was 17 at the time that she that he was engaging in like sexual exchanges with her and then there was the woman who said that she was not consensually recorded and that he posted revenge pornography of her by sharing the videos with other people in his polycule or whatever and then there was another person actually was the the video of the recording of him sucking dick um he was very clearly recording this from his pocket and it made it dubious consent if that was a consensual recording or not so in his community the gooning stuff is okay it's like whatever he's just a little gooner he's our lovable little gooner so whatever but the consent thing is is a serious line in in his his world so that's why he's eating so much 0:34:47 Unknown_01: yeah, I, I just, I, I just can't understand him persisting on and on and on like he does. Um, he's an ego fucking maniac. Well, but the thing is there's like a hard ceiling and like, this is what's happened to him and Vosh with the scandals that came out. is that they're never going to be in politics in a serious way. Like they're never actually going to be invited. Like there was a time when they were getting invited to like democratic party events and stuff like this. Uh, and you remember the photograph, the iconic photograph. Yeah. Unknown_01: and keffels together and like that's never gonna happen again because of all this stuff that's out there so you're never gonna ascend to that next level where you're truly gonna make a difference in politics uh you're never gonna really be like at the same level of popularity that you once were like it's it's lost and now like when you go out into the public sphere and you start trying to battle people they're gonna bring all of this stuff up you're not gonna there's no really good answer for like vosh's short stack you know lollicon whatever the or destiny recording people that he's sucking their dick off of non-consensually and and stuff like this and so in my mind it's like uh you know like are you really just hanging around to have this little fiefdom on a live stream to you know what i mean like 0:35:49 Unknown_01: i just would get the out you know if you've made x millions of dollars like just it's hard to say because i feel like he's probably wasted a lot of his money i feel like a lot of these people just waste their money but i don't know at the same time destiny's kind of smart and he's worked a real job so he he has should have some understanding of the value of a dollar but yeah i i think that he actually probably was somewhat intelligent with his money um you know he certainly has money enough to retain these lawyers where it doesn't seem like he's worried too much about it from a financial perspective but you got to imagine it is draining at some point maybe he's just continuing on to offset the ongoing expenses of all this litigation and things like that but 0:37:05 Unknown_01: i would say like you know does he do you really have a future in the 2030s destiny like does this guy like when he's 50 60 years old are people gonna take him seriously as like an intel i have an answer for this um destiny wanted to get into politics like as a politician so he's probably still holding out for that no but it's impossible it's over you're not getting anything like Unknown_01: even like a city council seat in california like i don't know if he could get at this point Unknown_01: I just remember that's what the thing was. Unknown_03: That's it for this. That's all I want to show you was just him ranting about. He had something to say about Candace Owens. He was complaining that Candace Owens had said something about how he just like rants at people and how that's not good content. Like he just dresses them down or something and he'd get really pissy with that. But no, the comments are unmoderated. Check out the comment moderators get relayed off as well. If aneurysm was a person, victim of demon scratching. 0:38:02 Unknown_03: Sounds like a kid that didn't get his toy at the store. He's still crashing out. Oh, his ass really going bankrupt, laughing emojis. The negative comments are clearly being deleted. I don't know. Sorry, little Benji, I wouldn't kiss your ass. It's covered in Netanyahu's zinc, which is disgusting. Unknown_03: never heard it referred to as no positive there's no positive comments and like i i get like there is some audience for him like there is a certain percentage of boomers that will watch this like uh you know middle-aged conservatives like middle-aged gop people but they don't comment like they're not in youtube comment sections they're not 0:38:50 Unknown_01: actively engaging what's he saying where did all where did they hire all these bots from laughing well it's the same cope that jerry uses but like this is obviously you know the more organic comments are the ones dunking on these people you know i don't know like if you have an audience that technically exists but they're not engaged or zealous or willing to take action in any way do you really have a political audience Unknown_01: Like, you know what I mean? Like, what are we talking about? Unknown_03: Yeah, that's true. If you don't have people, if you're like supposedly quasi political and you don't have people that you can actually get to go outside and do stuff for you, you don't really have any kind of momentum at all. Unknown_01: That's what I'm saying. And like this, there's also a big trans there's also a big leap between, you know, getting people online to do something. And then getting people in real life to do something right. Like the Groypers have been very successful at getting people online, mobilized. But then like, they can't even fill a fucking room in Detroit from a couple years ago. AFPAC four was a total fucking disaster and it has not been reattempted since. And like that weird offshoot of AF you, did you see this shit where it was like Jake shields was trying to organize a conference and they couldn't even get six people in the room for it. 0:39:50 Unknown_01: And it was just a total fucking disaster. And it's like, that's why I don't Ralph. Unknown_03: They shouldn't have kicked him out. Cause if Ralph is around, then the worst thing that's going to be about your conference is Ralph. Get a hundred people to show up at Ralph a mania. 0:40:26 Unknown_01: I think there's like a hundred people where like shit Ralph can host a better bowling tournament than Nick for one. Unknown_03: Does it can host a bowling tournament? Unknown_01: Bish Kingpin invitational. Unknown_01: Dick Masterson faked breaking his arm to go to not have to go to the bowling tournament. Sorry, Ralph. I'm in a full body cast. There's nothing I can do. Quickly, before we go into this, is Dick even doing anything anymore? It's the fucking podcast with Vito. Unknown_03: oh my god i just completely checked out on it because the last time i saw like they broke up and the podcast ended but they break up like every three fucking months and then i'm just like okay it's like the boogie fucking team start i'm done i'm done dick like dick needs to just fire veto and like i don't know like just fire veto 0:41:22 Unknown_03: He has like Maddox-itis. There was another person I was comparing to Dick recently where it's like, it's a real question of if Unknown_03: dick needs somebody who's like worse than him to be funny you know what i mean i think that's what it is it's like uh the woman that surrounds themselves with the ugly women or the fat chick or whatever yeah that's kind of what he does um yeah where he has to surround himself with lesser people to make himself feel better which is pretty fucking sad but it's like you could get a sidekick like sean was fine but like veto is is terrible dick 0:42:04 Unknown_01: like he's a he's a pedophile right like um he's a freak and uh like i don't know like i was hoping that there might be some sort of rehabilitation for dick after he had this kid um and it looked like he was going in the direction of cleaning out the freaks and it looked like he was going to get rid of veto but then he just didn't Unknown_03: I mean, to be fair to him, it hasn't gotten worse since he's had a kid. He's just kind of doing the same shit. Unknown_01: And so like, I just kind of leave him be now. Cause it's like, okay, he's off in his own weird, irrelevant corner of whatever. And like, I don't care at this point, but it's just like, yeah. Unknown_03: does he it's like the dabble verse it's like that's just not my i know man like i just can't get into the dabble verse stuff which has basically consumed the entire sector like there's a devour a polish expression uh not my circus not my monkeys well they are our monkeys but they're now in a different circus the dabble circus kind of and uh i don't care you know 0:43:13 Unknown_01: All right, let's do this. So Ben Shapiro has reached a level of desperation where he's now playing Fortnite to try and connect with the younger generation. Unaware that Fortnite like reached its peak relevance, like what a half decade ago or more. Unknown_03: yeah i feel like it's been five years since it kind of took over everything i think that the most recent thing i saw about fortnight was that they had a crossover with overwatch which is just like the craziest thing like overwatch is so dead now they have to like fortnight yeah but this is the ultimate like how do you do fellow kids like how do you do fellow kids where this isn't even really what the kids are obsessed with anymore this isn't like there still is 0:44:00 Unknown_01: popularity for this game but what's interesting is people are pointing out in the comments of this video that this was from like a season from like a year ago so they must have filmed this i guess a year ago and been sitting on it Unknown_01: Until now, I don't know a hundred percent if that's true, but I saw that in the comment section of this video, which it's just like, it's strange. Like they filmed this and we're like, this is fucking bad. Like we can't put this out. And then things got so bad in terms of viewership and youth appeal that they're like, all right, let's pull the emergency shoot. Let's draw Ben Shapiro playing Fortnite. All right, let's have a look. Unknown_03: It's time to Pokemon go to the polls. PPP Ben Shapiro versus Fortnite steps on your screen. 0:44:47 Unknown_02: Oh, someone right in front. Unknown_03: Oh, fuck. I fucked it up. It's on my, my mouse. Oh God. Unknown_02: Now it's on your screen. Oh, someone right in front of you. Aim downwards. Aim downwards. Unknown_01: Oh, there's a, okay. This is like a 70 year old man. Like it's like, he's never played a video game before. Like he doesn't know how to aim down with the controller. And it's like, Ben is only 40 years old. Unknown_03: Has he never played like a controller game ever? Well, that's how, that's how he's acting. Unknown_01: And it's like, is this really the case? Is he playing as Han Solo? He is, he is. Oh yes. 0:45:20 Unknown_03: If this is from the season where they did all the star Wars shit with like Darth Vader, that was like several years ago. That's not just like last season. That's like, I remember the, when this happened, cuz it was so cringe. Okay. Let's see it. We've made it seven seconds in. Unknown_02: Oh, someone else killed him. Someone, oh, oh, you got ran over by a car. Wow. Unknown_03: What is that face? Oh my God. Unknown_01: What is this face? He's like a clown. That gave me vibes of that like preacher. Do you know who I'm talking about? That was like laughing, like the laughing preacher guy. Yeah, I think he showed me this. He was fucked. It was like during like Trump, like when the walls were closing in, I think after Jan 6th or something like that. 0:45:54 Unknown_01: Anyway, like this is like demented Joker mode. like this is like this is like watching like the the crusty ceo of like some major game company trying to play his game at e3 and he's like trying to overact like how much he's enjoying it yeah he's kicking his feet oh dude the ai ben shapiro oh here it is no look that's really how buff and cool ben shapiro looks in real life yes 0:46:37 Unknown_03: Who the fuck are you, bitch? Unknown_01: Like, who are you, bitch? Like, oh, we got sex appeal for the boomer gooners. Unknown_00: So you have to explain to me what this game is, why it exists. Unknown_03: As if you don't fucking know what it is. Unknown_01: This is like performative, isn't it? Where he's like, so yeah, I just came from under a rock and I don't know anything about these things the young kids are doing today because I'm interested in my intellectual ventures of reading books and the important things of life. Do you think that's what he's going to do? 0:47:12 Unknown_03: Where he's like, I'm so busy learning. You know what? I just bought this Lamborghini. No, that's what it is. I know it's even more valuable. Unknown_01: Knowledge. Bring it back. So here he is like attacking children for doing Fortnite dances. Unknown_01: And like, he's just like this, like old curmudgeon that's like these kids today, they don't know what it's like. Back in my day, we had good media like Star Wars, but now they're doing the cringe TikTok dances and the six, seven memes. When I was their age, I was studying for my bar mitzvah. 0:47:48 Unknown_03: And my father would never let me go anywhere near a video game until I had done my Torah studies. Unknown_01: I think that may actually be the case. Like, have you seen Ben Shapiro, like playing the violin when he was like, he was like five years old kid. Unknown_03: Oh my God. Yeah. Unknown_01: Like, well, Ben Shapiro actually is, in my opinion, probably like at least 140 IQ, like a, Unknown_01: genuinely like supremely gifted like elite person and he was like five years old he's like playing the theme from schindler's list at the on the violin at like a bar mitzvah you've never seen this footage it's crazy holy well watch that at the end of this okay i trust you 0:48:33 Unknown_00: So you have to explain to me what this game is, why it exists, and... Unknown_03: It's just... You're just out of fucking touch if you don't understand the premise of this game. Unknown_01: He's a bunch of dumb children doing a dance. They're children, Ben. Yeah, they're dancing. They're having fun. Like, this psychotic rage that's within him because young people are having fun. Unknown_03: Like, I find that so cringe. Children are goofy dancing. Unknown_03: Look at those children doing Ring Around a Rosie. That's fucking embarrassing. They should be studying the Torah. It's the children who are wrong. 0:49:07 Unknown_02: They should be reading Thomas Sowell. Unknown_03: I've always found it interesting how the most popular games for this, like, generation are, like, Hunger Games. And, like, Hunger Games itself is so popular. You know what I mean? It's like kids just want to kill each other so fucking bad. Unknown_00: Wow. Unknown_01: The editor is trying so hard to carry job it with these, like, inner spliced memes and movie references. 0:49:43 Unknown_02: Push this button here two times. if you don't know how to fucking ps2 controller but like this is like it should be pretty intuitive do you know what i mean like pretending he doesn't know like the buttons on a fucking dual shock like i was like four fucking years old playing like super mario on an nes like you put a controller in a kid's hands they figure it out in 30 fucking seconds this grown-ass man has to have someone explain to him what the buttons are that shows the x button you press the fucking x button ben Unknown_01: Like, I just, I refuse to believe that. And like, if it really is the case, like, do you realize like you're making your boss look retarded as fuck? 0:50:18 Unknown_03: Is it more embarrassing if he doesn't know or if he's pretending not to know? Unknown_01: that's what i'm saying like i feel like he's actually pretending not to know to try and give this persona of that he's like no it's not even that he's cool like his brand is that he's so uncool because he's so intelligent and so above like the common person and like you were giving me this rundown of how you think he's doing like a character of like a hyper autistic Unknown_03: Like, being a pure facts and logic that is, like, elevated from mere mortal, like, coil to, like, the super brainiac. I would never do that. 0:50:55 Unknown_01: That's for children. You people are pathetic. This game is illogical. Unknown_03: Han Solo does not appear in this universe. Unknown_01: No, that's what you do. Like, that's his guy, man. And it's like, this is our champion over here. Like, this isn't going to fucking work. Unknown_01: These characters are from completely different properties. Unknown_03: Why are they shooting at each other? Has something happened to anger them? Unknown_02: So you can see you walk around, move around. X is going to be your jump button. 0:51:29 Unknown_02: Oh, my God. Unknown_03: No, it's so cringe. The editing on this is desperate, man. Unknown_01: It is desperate. Please help me. Interesting. Like, do we need every five seconds a cutaway meme? Unknown_03: Yeah, it's trying to copy, like, the popular YouTube editing format. Like, you can see clearly why this rotted on the shelf for a while. Yeah, this is like an honest to God break into the youth market, because this is edited like how the best food review show is, where they have like meme cuts into it and shit. What are the other controls? 0:52:02 Unknown_02: So use your stick on the left. Unknown_03: What am I supposed to be learning? Use your stick on the left. Unknown_02: There you go. You can use your stick on the left to kinda move around, see where you wanna go, if there's any place that looks interesting. Your look button, see if you can look down the other way. Unknown_01: He's trying to teach me to speed this shit up. He's not 60 years old. Unknown_02: Way better than I did. You're really good at falling. Unknown_01: This isn't flying. God, she's worthless. She's just adding nothing of value. Like, she's not even playing the game. Who the fuck is she? Like, she's just there because she's a woman. Is that the Rodriguez woman? I think so. 0:52:35 Unknown_02: All righty, so I'm going to jump over that wall using X. Good. I try to look in front of you. All right, so if you look to your right. Try to look in front of it. Unknown_00: Interesting. Unknown_02: There you go. Oh, there's your first gun right there, that green thing. So you're going to want to go next to it. Has Andy played this game? Unknown_01: I don't think he plays this, but he probably plays something equally as cringe. Unknown_01: You probably get really offended and start talking about Apex Legends and how much better it is or something. Unknown_03: Me? Oh, you're getting shot at. 0:53:07 Unknown_01: No, no, Andy. Oh, yeah. He'll give you his hot take on what the great game is of the now. Oh, God, is he fighting bots? Unknown_03: Bro. He got ran over by a Dodge Charger like in Charlottesville. Unknown_01: Remember when Nick Fuentes, he's driving over Ben in Grand Theft Auto? That's basically what happened to Ben in Fortnite. Some groiper just came in and just smoked out Shapiro just like that. 0:53:39 Unknown_03: Groiper senses were just tingling. That's Ben Shapiro. I don't know how I know, but I know. The groiper army sends their regards, Ben. Unknown_03: Did you know that this game, they did a Holocaust museum event? Unknown_03: There was an in-game event that you could attend to getting a reward. In Washington, D.C.? Unknown_03: No, in Fortnite. Unknown_01: there's a holocaust museum they built in fortnight yeah it was like a world that you could visit that was a holocaust museum i think it was actually produced by the dc holocaust museum or something and um if you went through it and completed the entire tour you got like a reward for doing so and uh they they had an issue where they had to disable emotes because everyone was like spamming the laugh react 0:54:31 Unknown_03: the holocaust museum that's very disrespectful i know disavow how dare they but uh they tried to i'm just saying they tried to reach these kids through fortnight did not fucking work all right then nobody wants to learn about the holocaust through the fucking fortnight that's insane yeah there's a time and a place for indoctrinating the children for fuck's sake Unknown_03: It's not a very somber environment when you're Han Solo. Unknown_01: No! It's a game dedicated to meme dances. And you're like, that's the great idea for Holocaust education, the meme dance game. Here's my question to you. Unknown_03: Here's an honest question. Who is the target audience of this video? Is this supposed to enlighten elderly people about their children's favorite? Unknown_01: It's like, it's kind of like that. It's like for old people to laugh at how retarded young people are. and how ben just doesn't get it and the children are dumb but if you're an elderly person you would not enjoy the editing of this episode the editing so it indicates it's for a young actually it it really is i think an effort to try and reach young people yeah by showcasing how out of touch and clueless ben is yeah which is a strange strategy 0:55:28 Unknown_03: It should be showing Ben, like, in a Call of Duty lobby, and it's, like, a bunch of, like, ropers, like, saying racist stuff. And he's just stomping them out. Yeah. 0:56:04 Unknown_01: Ben's 360 no-scoping Beardson and fucking Dalton, you know, and he's just, like... And what they do is they hire... like a virtual massage yeah they got like they bring in like the dream team like the israeli esports team to show ben how to fucking stomp out the no it just pretends to play but they have like the israeli esports team and they're stream sniping fuentes and beardshin playing and just completely wrecking them and then there's like ben shapiro destroys nick fuentes in call of duty 0:56:43 Unknown_03: Most people don't know this, but when I'm not doing my show, I'm grinding out my KDR and epic fragging Nazis on the internet. That's the video. I like to kill Nazis in this game. That's awesome. Wolfenstein was always my favorite game as a kid because I could stomp Nazis. Unknown_01: That would make a lot more sense. That would be awesome. Unknown_03: Honestly, it would be fucking great. Unknown_00: Oh, fuck. Unknown_00: And beer as well. What? Unknown_01: Those are Ben's first aid. Imagine actually getting Nick and Ben in a cage match where they fight to the death. Unknown_01: Like the ultimate sissy struggle showdown. I think Ben would win. He placed 88th. 0:57:23 Unknown_03: Otto. Oh, no. Unknown_01: That's a hate crime. Ben, do better, bro. Unknown_01: That bitch is ugly. What the fuck? The filthy Frank and like the smoke alarm chirp. Did you, that was crazy. Unknown_03: They censored the inward out with a smoke alarm and the black raised fist emoji. Unknown_01: From filthy Frank. Well, see, this is their new strategy, by the way, is that like they embrace racism now, but you can't be anti-Semitic. You see? So it's like, it's all like racism against black and brown people is cool. Throwing our African-American friends under the bus. I know. To save themselves. That's tragic. Who could have ever saw this coming? 0:58:01 Unknown_00: Terrible. That is true. What do you get if you win? Unknown_03: Chicken dinner. Wow. Unknown_03: Chicken dinner to control Yourself on the back. Unknown_02: Yes. It's a video game. I forgot how you're not gonna say it's chicken dinner when you win the fucking game It says winner winner chicken dinner This is bad You're gonna ask like a professional fortnight player, what do you get if you win and they just like charges? 0:58:44 Unknown_03: I don't know. I guess you get to play pack yourself on the back. I Can you not, like, sell this game a little bit? You get chicken dinner, you and your friends, like, all high-five each other on fucking Discord? And do a fucking scream, like, victory laughs? Like, what a piece of shit. You don't even, this fat schlob doesn't even enjoy this fucking game. Unknown_00: My video game experience has ended with Quake. Unknown_01: With Quake? Unknown_00: Okay. You should know what a controller is. Unknown_01: That's the thing. Had he played Quake, he would know how to aim. You know what I mean? I refuse to believe he doesn't know how to use sticks on a controller. 0:59:18 Unknown_03: Or he would demand to play the game on mouse and keyboard if he never used it. Unknown_00: It turns out that, as you found out at the Daily Wire, that's not equated to upper income trajectory. Unknown_02: No, not at all. Not at all. Unknown_01: That's what it's about, right? If you don't play video games, then you're not on the upper income trajectory to be an elite human capital person, and it's for losers, and da-da-da-da. Unknown_01: Is that the end of the Fortnite? Unknown_03: That's the end of the Fortnite. Unknown_01: Is that it? That's it. All right. Well, we did our best. There's a little bit more. 0:59:53 Unknown_01: It's a little bit more, okay. What the fuck is the point of the rest of this video? Unknown_02: I'm curious. Unknown_02: Let's see where you can land. Unknown_00: Where is away from people? Unknown_02: You just want to land in the middle of the forest. Yeah, exactly. You see all those trees down there, those yellow trees? Unknown_00: Yes. Unknown_02: Try to land in those yellow trees. Okay, sounds good. Unknown_00: Because if there are other people, I'm going to get killed immediately. Unknown_02: Jacob, you should have done a round. Unknown_00: Story of your life. I should have done a round first. Yeah, we have to see what it looks like when someone who knows what the hell they're doing does this. Unknown_02: Okay, so that, you found your first chest. So that's a chest. Oh, my God. Until it says to hold square. Try to look at it more. Like, gear your camera to look at it. down a little bit dude when ben shapiro is playing a video game his posture and like gormless expression reminds me of dsp yeah it's similar isn't it 1:00:25 Unknown_01: Oh, God. That lady's just unfortunate looking, man. Like, her teeth. Unknown_00: Yeah. Unknown_03: Her nose, like... Oh, you had it. You see how it pops up? The editing of this video is legitimately awful. Oh, you got a nice... They paid somebody. One of their 115 fucking employees edited this fucking nightmare. 1:00:56 Unknown_01: I just... I don't think that this Ben Shapiro-led brand is making it, is it? No. Unknown_03: Now push the shoot button. This is honestly one of the most confused things I've ever seen because it's like this is like the pacing of this is like we're going to do a deep dive into contemporary media to show parents who don't get to watch everything their kids are doing what they could be up to. But the editing is for a 16 year old boy who loves memes. 1:01:33 Unknown_02: Yes. They change this map like every few weeks. All right. Unknown_01: I got a piss. Okay. So are we going to pause it and come back or do we just want to fucking call it? What do you want to think? Unknown_01: Um, I think we could just summarize our thoughts about how fucking desperate this is. Unknown_03: This is honestly, this recording is longer than the fucking, the digital circus one. I feel like it's just, I think it was better. Unknown_01: I just like more. 1:02:09 Unknown_01: You know, I would much rather do this than watch amazing digital circus. But of course, everyone would be like, well, this was garbage. This was political spurging. Their takes were trash. They're owned by the Jews or their cocks or whatever the fuck. So maybe, maybe they could add the amazing digital circus to Benkei and get all the TADC people. Unknown_03: That's the way. That's the way. Yeah. Sufficiently Machiavellian. Unknown_00: Okay. Unknown_01: all right well i guess that's it for this edition of the kiwi casino uh it was fun this was fun i thought i'm amazing digital circus was brutal i don't know i was like i was no man as this was i was brutal man yeah that was pretty funny i was losing hope i was losing my will to live so all right i'm gonna go take a piss 1:03:08 Unknown_03: All right. Until next time. Thank you. Bye-bye. Unknown_01: Bye-bye.