Kurt Metzger - DERP WITH KURP! : Josh Moon interview. 2025-07-29

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Unknown_05: Look it, fuckstick.

Unknown_05: You don't gotta trust me.

Unknown_05: Just listen to what I'm saying to you.

Unknown_05: Well, my name is Kirk, and I derpity derp. Oh, won't you come and derp with me?

Unknown_01: Why am I a small square? All right, hold on.

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Unknown_01: Welcome to the Derp with Kirk. I'm going to bring Mark, my engineer to the stage. Mark, are you there?

Unknown_04: Yes, I'm here.

Unknown_01: What's up, Kirk? Okay.

Unknown_04: How come my little box is too small? Stop sharing the screen from the intro. Oh, wow. What an asshole. You're fine. Well, it says they're not on the stage.

Unknown_01: We got to bring them on.

Unknown_01: Okay. All right. I'm going to just bring my first guest. This has already been a disaster, this live stream.

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Unknown_01: It's hard to believe I went to space with these brave women.

Unknown_01: All right. My first guest, I want to get on for a while. He's owner of the website Kiwi Farms. You may have heard of it for the terrible cyberbullying they engage in, according to MSNBC. I'm bringing on Josh Moon right now. Hi, Kirk. I'm also going to bring on... What's up, man? Thanks for being on the Dirt with Kirk. And I'm going to bring on Duncan Trussell.

Unknown_01: why is this set up like this but how am i sharing it the same way you you clicked it when we started i like it um i don't even see where that is on this thing

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Unknown_04: Are you full screen?

Unknown_04: Yeah. Okay. Bring your mouse down to the bottom of the screen. There should be a TV symbol with a plus in it. That's the toggle to present and not present. Do you see that? Yeah. Click it.

Unknown_01: Oh, my God. It's making me do all this other...

Unknown_04: next episode you'll have me at the helm and we'll i'm getting uh texts about it there's layout options under the screen right oh you nailed it nice see this is why you go live so you can work out the problems in front of the audience see it's endearing they they grow to love you more and more kurt with each mistake is that is that true okay 100 all right i can hear everybody and uh josh i can hear you all right

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Unknown_01: So Duncan has a very special gift he's going to be sharing with us throughout the show. I'm going to knock Duncan and Mark off right now because I brought Josh on because of this debanking thing, which most people don't really know about. And I've seen almost no one talk about it except for Josh Moon. Nobody else seems to know it's a thing.

Unknown_03: I'm most affected, so I care the most about it, I guess.

Unknown_01: yeah well that's what america's about you don't gotta give a to happens to you exactly so okay tell everybody a little bit about your site like from your because i don't even know how to describe it to people the way well here's how i describe the people And people don't even know what I'm referencing. But there's a thing called Bellingcat that you'll see there get dick sucked on like 60 Minutes and stuff. And it's an ex-gamer named Elliot Higgins, but one of the good gamers, you know? And he put his own little open source Intel group together to expose how Putin is bad from his loft in London. And it's amazing. And what he is is a cutout of Intel services to put propaganda through. So your site, which I guess... people call like a local site. When I started watching your podcast, I noticed you got like really valuable information. It's almost like you actually have a private Intel network. That's open source.

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Unknown_01: That's what your site is. I mean, it's nice to be able to ask like a thousand people to look into something for you when you're feeling lazy.

Unknown_03: It is a valuable asset when you can do that. But I think it would be kind of incorrect to call it like an Intel network because way i would describe it that i think would resonate with you is that it's a it's a website that was originally dedicated just to like internet gossip about internet celebrities which you right remark to me is your least favorite part of everything that i do but no no you know what um ryan long made a funny joke about it because like people think conspiracy theories they're just gossip really yeah kind of yeah so you know it's like actually the same thing in like

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Unknown_01: My girlfriend doesn't really watch gossip, but girls that I've been with, they all love gossip. When I was living in New York, they'd be like, ew, conspiracies.

Unknown_01: Meanwhile, they think Beyonce didn't have her own kid. Who dates Taylor Swift? I don't watch football, but I mean, when you put it like that, it does sound like a conspiracy theory.

Unknown_03: It's just gossip for men. You know, it's about the governments and the bankers and stuff. It's just the same shit.

Unknown_01: Yeah, right. And they, you know, it didn't, by the way, used to be that way. May Brussels, who probably was killed, she was killed during a She had cancer, but I think they did it to her. It was the Presidio scandal during the satanic panic that lasted 20 years, which is kind of long for a panic to be a real panic. But she was reporting on shitty things they were doing to the airport. And this Presidio scandal was like yet another pedo thing. And then she died of cancer suddenly. But now as things are, everybody's in their little own personal matrix that they helped build for themselves. uh things get divided that way that didn't used to be and then like new weird ones come up uh but you know when they said trump colluded with russia that they're saying collusion because they already crapped up the word conspiracy they want to say conspiracy that's the name of a crime but they can't say it because they have to maintain the propaganda of saying conspiracy is a thing that's not true so i think gossip's a better thing to say actually the gossip site

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Unknown_03: yeah um but my perspective is that you know we let people talk about people that are really insignificant and i think that upsets a lot of people because it's like they it's not fair to them in a lot of ways that you let you know a bunch of people talk a lot about really small people but i've learned over the years that if you don't let people talk about who they want to talk about you you can't let them talk about larger things and more important things Because if you let somebody set the terms of engagement about who's okay to talk about and who's not okay to talk about, it allows them to define the rules, you know, the lay of the land, the rules of engagement or whatever. So you kind of just have to keep it open for everybody.

Unknown_01: Yeah, I mean, you know, that's a very smart way to put a thing that you would think would be a simple, obvious thing. But it is not. It's not. And there's like a... I don't know. I'm on a news show when I'm not doing this fine work. And I'm amazed. Because I used to never pay attention to any news. Because why would you want to? And then I had to be on a news show and see stuff. And I can't believe anybody that does reporting still believes in any of this as, you know, just like America itself and has faith in, you know, phase two of the Epstein binders or whatever. Because very quickly you see what the scam is. The one you just mentioned, you know, there's like the morons that... that are like the foot soldiers of it. But that's very intentional. Like that's, that's what these intelligences came up with when they put this social media shit out. That was a goal is to set the parameter, like set your little veal cage for you out of the gate before you even start talking.

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Unknown_03: Yeah, I think most people, they believe what is most convenient for them. And radical shifts in philosophy and perspective requires kind of reconfiguring your entire life. And most people simply aren't in a place to do that. So they tend to want to believe what is already expedient to believe.

Unknown_01: Yeah, right. Honestly, the reason people are figuring anything out now is because they don't have no choice. If something just happens to you where you have to figure it out, then you're going to learn. Yeah, precisely.

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Unknown_03: Things have to be really bad for you to sit down and think like, okay, none of this is working. What's going on?

Unknown_01: I had to chase a guy, some guy jumped my fence where I live in, by the way, in Austin. Didn't research the neighborhood at all.

Unknown_01: Maybe a mistake. There's a soup kitchen not far. It's all these like white, you only used to see them in like Seattle and San Francisco, like coyote looking white guy meth head homeless that are also on fence. They look like Manson family people. This used to be some Mexican neighborhood, but they had like brown flight. Did you ever hear that before?

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Unknown_03: Yeah. they got they got colonized it's like the opposite of gentrification yeah i've never heard of it i made that word up because that's what happened these were like homes people owned for a long time i just always cynically think and even though i i am an astronaut i'm still pretty cynical i think some real estate developer wanted to make sure there's homeless here to drive the prices down because that's how they get stuff that's like how they did in lahaina

Unknown_01: all them people couldn't, it was, I can't, I can't remember historic or something, but they've been there for a long time and they got big plans that land. And so they engineered, they don't need to use this. I doubt they would break out the space laser for the likes of you. you know, but I feel like any good conspiracy like that needs a real simple connection between the motivation and what's being done and like busting, opening a homeless shelter to get like Fenton zombies to crowd up the area, to reduce values.

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Unknown_03: So a bank can buy it. That's like, that's a pretty good conspiracy theory. It makes sense. You don't, you don't have to, you don't have to make all these leaps of faith to come to that.

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Unknown_01: Well, I just, once you realize that, You know, like I said, I believe insane things, but I'm also very... I look at things very from a cynical consumer perspective first. So, you know, I'm like, are they going to bust out the money to break out the space laser for you when they could just turn the water off and bring invasive dry grass and drop a road flare on it? And also, I didn't know that's what they did because we sent them... A reporter went over there and filmed what happened.

Unknown_01: But I also think, of course, they have a space laser. They've been talking about it forever. Lasers aren't some kind of amazing future technology.

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Unknown_01: But that's what I wanted to bring you on is I got real mad about this when we covered this on Jimmy's show. And I remember texting Rogan during the show because he had Marc Andreessen on. You familiar with him?

Unknown_03: no i'm really out of my depth here just so you know i'm i'm completely i think you know something about it so i okay i had a buddy of mine i used to write for this uh website uh every other sunday called consumption junction which is like one of them kind of rotten sites or whatever so my friend that owned it he would make money on uh domain names like real estate at that time there was like all this money yeah domain parking uh

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Unknown_01: yeah he owned he owned hitler.com he told me i remember i was cracking up he was like yeah the adl wants to buy they're gonna they want for a million dollars but what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna make it into like a girl's diary like an anne frank diary like with his crushes and i don't know anyway now he he's in puerto rico where they all live making uh ai for the ai boom oh puerto rico is a hot spot for people right now because it's a tax advantage

Unknown_01: So I hadn't heard from him in a long time. He wanted me to train... They wanted me to train an AI to write funny Trump memes for, I think, shit coins, all kinds of stuff. But they wanted me to train it to be funny.

Unknown_01: Because, you know, they're not funny. But the reason they thought it could maybe be funny was because somebody, they made... So the way it works is, if it's not secretly just Indians pretending they're AI, if it's not that, then what it is... is uh it's like glorified bots i guess i can make a few more choices and they call them slave they're called slave they stack them i don't know if you know all this but they stack them and so you go hey i want you to write a hit song and market it on these social medias and do all that stuff that i would have to do right so somebody to train their ai to boss to do that they um They said, write a funny Christmas song that could go viral. But what they did is they had two of them, the two slave bots, arguing about what's better on Discord. So they put them in as Discord comments that argued. And they argued with each other until they came up with a Goatsy Christmas carol or something. About the guy, you know, Goatsy. So I guess it did go viral. I mean, I'm not... I'm not that far into computer shit to like, or this is about the age group. Anyway, Mark Andreessen paid $70 million for their AI.

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Unknown_01: So because of the Christmas song, because of the go to Christmas song.

Unknown_03: Yeah, this is, this is how they're called tech bubbles. And every time new innovations come out, like every publicly traded company, like gloms onto it. And, and like, if you manage to catch the wave on one of these, you can retire early. Basically, if you can find something that impresses one of these guys,

Unknown_01: You know, my friend, by the way, is the guy who told me way back when Bitcoin started to get Bitcoin. I just didn't understand what it was, so I didn't. Oh, man.

Unknown_03: I owned Bitcoin in 2012, but because I was debanked, I had to sell basically everything I got to pay for shit. Wow. I know.

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Unknown_01: Well, anyway, let me get to you debanking. I really am the worst. Andreessen. He was on Rogan's show talking about, I think it's the consumer protection something, the one that Elizabeth Warren was the head of and Lena Kahn. was bringing all these charges against Andreessen because he's a piece of shit, scam artist, and also against the guy that was backing that lady that named her cat vagina that said Trump grabbed her by the pussy. E. Jean Carroll. There's a big fat fuck who's behind her because he had a deal. This is what I think it is. He had a deal with Kamala's people. to get rid of Lena Khan. So anyway, Andreessen, who's just a, oh, he's a scumbag, dude. We're just watching him like, because what makes me mad is I believed him when I first saw it.

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Unknown_01: So he goes, he's talking about debanking, how bad it is, right? And I'm like, yeah, that is bad. And basically this consumer protection is just Elizabeth Warren's personal gang she uses to crack down on people. And there's this Indian socialist lady, Lena Khan, that's in charge, right? So that sounds pretty bad, don't it? So later I find out, because we had Steve Bannon on talk. No, Lena Kahn does her job. Steve Bannon's saying that. Mark Andreessen was about to be, he was getting pursued for fraud, and he just wants the power to debank with the rest of the tech fuck. That's all it is. And under them, you'd have even less rights than you did with something that has Elizabeth Warren as a left. But it's always a trick. It's always a trick. And then I watched the last episode of Mad at the Internet, and you were talking about this new bill that sounds good. So tell them why you were debunked and what that entailed, the hassles of that.

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Unknown_03: I don't know why I'm debunked and I will never find out because the first irritating thing about how financial services work is that because it's a private entity and risk management is a trade secret, you have no privilege to know. You have no right to know. You cannot sue to know why anything happens.

Unknown_01: Oh, that's great. And I'm the all the like fake boutique leftists of New York and L.A. This is their cue to go. Well, it's a private company. I can do what they want. But then when Elon lets you say three more words on Twitter, I can't believe he's doing this. Can't the government stop it? It's unbelievable that, dude, I thought I saw this on Matt's Internet, but I could be wrong. The fat Asian that came up with shadow banning and gave a talk about it, was that on your show?

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Unknown_03: It could be. I don't remember the exact origin of what you're referring to exactly, but shadow banning, the definition of that has evolved, and now it's a proper thing where they talk about it as a way to disincentivize people without directly informing them that they're banned, basically. Yeah.

Unknown_01: I mean, yeah, and it's got a... Well, I watch it somewhere, someone talking about this. So this guy turned out to be like some fat stalker. You know, they all turn out to be fat psychopath anime stalkers. And he's given a speech, and it was for like World of Warcraft, I think.

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Unknown_01: And he goes, what if we don't even tell them they're banned? And you can see his little... He looked like that kid that won Jeopardy. Yeah. You know? that everybody hated or anyway, it went back to some gamer thing and stupid gamer gate, which at the time I did not care. I'm like, first of all, I would never say the word gamer. I'm not a millennial. We just called them nerds and losers. I just would say that about myself. Cause you know what? I don't have any kids. So, you know, I'm a barren man.

Unknown_01: I played dark tide and shit. So that gamer idea as an identity was a new thing. And then I remember when that started, it was because that weird chick, Well, really what started was them putting those microtransactions and screwing the customer at every turn. And then the added insult is all this other social justice crap, which was almost all designed as bait to make you the bad guy. so they could ream you out financially. I mean, I didn't understand any of this at the time.

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Unknown_03: Gamergate is an extremely difficult topic, and it really doesn't matter anymore. But I feel like what happened with it was like a proof of concept for how to dismember a headless momentum, like how to terminate velocity of something that doesn't really have a central source. And it turns out to be identity politics, basically. And I feel like a lot of the moderation tools that platforms outside of HN use to kind of quell dissent have been perfected over the last 10 years since. And shadow banning is a great example of that because shadow banning is one of the most insidious things that has ever been perpetrated against people. Because what happens is you go on Twitter or X or whatever and you say something. And if you're shadow banned, you're simply denied any gratification. So you don't actually get any feedback to know that you're not allowed to post. And it just sort of trains you to think, oh, what I have to say doesn't matter. And my opinions are not respected. And nobody cares what I have to say. Nobody agrees with me. Like, that's what it does. Right. It is genuinely like a Mengele-tier mad scientist experiment on the human psyche is what they perpetrate with social media now.

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Unknown_01: It's all – the Mengele – just I want to make it clear to everybody that in Paperclip, we saved the great Dr. Mengele, and he came here to work his science on his way to go hide wherever, and that's where that stuff comes from. They're all – old like that's why i tell people don't worry about the chip in your head because they don't need that they had that a long time ago there's all wireless now and there's 5g and all this and and they don't need to make a fancy holodeck for you you'll go oh this is simulation and i think it is but not like a cool sci-fi thing they just lie to you when you're an idiot and you want you're not going to look anybody else's stuff and if somebody says oh josh moon that's from that bad website All this information you're not going to get because they already put stink on you. And that's all they got to do. They don't have to break out alien shit.

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Unknown_01: Yeah. You'll settle for much, much, much less, you know?

Unknown_03: I mean, it's kind of frustrating because it's like, I feel like on certain topics, I really do have a lot to say that I feel is important. But I have accepted that I will always have a very limited reach. And just because. I like your Sisyphus thing that you say.

Unknown_01: I like that. Yeah, it is like that.

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Unknown_03: And I don't know.

Unknown_01: You're a young dude. That's a guy as young as you to have come to that conclusion. It's like, that's a very stork. a sign of bad times yeah i feel like it's a it's a very important thing that everybody kind of learns their limitations because it'll it'll help you with frustration and it'll help you with actually focusing your energy to to being productive yeah well i say follow the example these uh these this whole woman astronaut team behind me you know excellence first By the way, did you... I think they didn't actually go to space. It was basically just like a ride. They went to the stratosphere, and then they tipped into what is considered space and then landed. Yeah, big fat cock full old ladies they shot up, and it looked like a head was too fat to fit into space. It was just Jeff Bezos giving his... I don't know who.

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Unknown_03: Is it his girlfriend now?

Unknown_01: Yeah, Lauren Sanchez behind me.

Unknown_03: Yeah.

Unknown_01: Hey, burner, friends, a nice cruise.

Unknown_03: It's okay.

Unknown_01: I thought you told me you were killed, so you have to marry her.

Unknown_03: Yeah, exactly. I thought they were going to kill, like Oprah's going to get rid of Gail.

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Unknown_01: And then when they had the door and they had to reclose it so Gail could get her wig back on. I don't know if they're going to be waiting to finish them off because the space thing didn't work. But no, they're married. All right, I'm going to bring Mark on for a second because I want to figure out how the hell to let... Mark, how do I let comments in since I'm foolishly in control of the controls?

Unknown_01: You're muted.

Unknown_00: Unmute.

Unknown_04: We got some comments already. If you on full screen and then you go over to the side, the right side where it says private chat, and then there's another tab that says comments, you'll see all the chats coming in. Okay, let's see. Night Gazer, Just Some Guy, Doomer of Fortune, Old Man River, Based in Real Life.

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Unknown_01: Yeah, Lena Khan is British Pakistani. Oh, I apologize. That is a much funnier accent. A.K.A. the fake Muslim, the equivalent of a British Jew. I've met British Jews that were from Britain. I worked for Sasha Cohen one time. um all right wait uh so how do i make super chats is that something i was supposed to pre-load because i want to have uh are you monetized um i don't know maybe i think you're not monetizing i want to do it at some point because duncan uh the great duncan trussell uh who did you switch over to the comments tab it's next to the one you're just reading from yeah wait there's just studio chat

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Unknown_04: No, you're looking at the private chat. You need to click the one that says comments.

Unknown_04: Oh, thousands of comments. Shout out to control.

Unknown_01: Oh, Kurt, please ask. Sorry. Please ask Josh about the block land forums.

Unknown_03: A bunch of these people don't like me, and that's why they're spamming chat. 15 years ago, I participated on a forum as a 15-year-old, and I said a bunch of stuff that people still try to throw at me to this day.

Unknown_01: Wait, so you're 32, so... Yes.

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Unknown_03: Wait, so how old were you when you did this? 15 to 17 and 19.

Unknown_01: Wow!

Unknown_01: Yeah, I can never forgive a teenager for making a comment on a thing.

Unknown_01: That's unbelievable. Yeah, there's no Super Chat option because I didn't set it up well.

Unknown_03: Yeah, you have to monetize your channel first, I think.

Unknown_01: There was a lot of preparation, but, you know, I was trying to get my Schoolhouse Rock logo together. And then I was going to have, but I'm still going to have them. I got somebody. This guy does impressions for Jimmy. He's going to be my CIA guy, like Mike Baker. You ever see that guy, Mike Baker? no he he never tells anything he's cl he always shows up after dave smith goes on and says something about israel he's always clearly from the cia to say nothing and just hang out and have a cigar and so viewers know they watch it and they make comments and you know so i have a guy coming in to be my cia guy and his name's jake schittler and uh i'm gonna have him come on to weigh in on all these things but uh that's the next one for this one we got the great duncan here wait all right mark i'm taking out i see the comments

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Unknown_01: Thank you, Mark.

Unknown_01: Um, Duncan.

Unknown_02: Hello.

Unknown_01: Can you hear me? All right. So why you got debunked, but what year was it when you got to bank Josh?

Unknown_03: um probably 2014 i think is when i first got banned by paypal and i'm actually i'm still so banned by paypal that um if i try to use my discover card to book an uber it gets cancelled because paypal recognizes that that's my card and i can't use that to buy things wow that's very chinese of us isn't it we i think we're china without the flying cars basically at this point Yeah, it's crazy because the main frustration with it is that it's quasi-governmental. So you effectively need the permission of not just one of the card networks to do business. You need the collective consent of all four of them. And then you also have no appeal system. So it's all the authority of government with all the downsides of a private entity that can just kick you out.

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Unknown_01: yeah that's what i like i like that the top libertarians believe in libertarianism for just them and you are going to be like some feudal you're gonna have to like become loyal you're gonna join a gang it's like prison you gotta join a gang to survive so because they formed a gang to do that and 2014 would have been uh obama was asking them to do that right yeah um

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Unknown_03: yeah i mean to get by uh besides crypto i've actually considered um doing checks in the mail because i know that there are these banking rdc machines and then you can just feed them checks automatically and then from there uh you can deposit cash and it's i mean the issue is is like the delayed purchase and getting people to actually go out of their way to do that um

Unknown_03: which is why what I would like to do is get people to use bill pay. Have you ever used bill pay?

Unknown_01: Yes. Louis CK. Last time I did stuff, we'll open up for him. He paid me with bill pay. Yeah. It's just, maybe, I mean, it just automatically cuts you a check every month.

Unknown_03: Right. So it's like you set it up and then you can forget about it. So I'm going to try to get that set up eventually. But as far as cards, you know, I've basically given up because there's like seven different levels to how a card transaction happens. And they're all points of failure. If any of those entities, for whatever reason, say that you can't do a transaction, it does not go through.

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Unknown_01: So 2014, I guess Kiwi Farms is going then, right? When did you start Kiwi Farms?

Unknown_03: February 2013. Okay. february 2013 okay for about a year it was too small at the beginning it was very small so in the second year i i started accepting paypal donations and that very quickly got shut down so was this the beginning because i remember when i first heard like bronies and all that do you remember duncan hearing about bronies the first time of course of course it was wild the bronies yeah that was so confusing man

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Unknown_01: Well, you know, the microplastics are just built up in the children's taints enough to create these creatures. And then everybody's on those head medicines.

Unknown_01: And so you're already numb. Like, I know somebody who's screwed up. You know, that kills your sex drive or it makes it... And they've been on it since they're kids, a lot of these people. And then the only way you could get off is, like, weird shit because you're just numb. And then... they have, these are like dudes that have no contact with girls. So they're just getting a huge massive dose of like feminine sparkly colors hitting that part of the brain. I don't know, man.

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Unknown_02: There felt like there was something sinister in the bronies. Like some

Unknown_01: What would that be? I don't know.

Unknown_02: I don't know. It just, the aesthetic of it was so satanic. It seemed somehow so incredibly depraved and yet it's my little pony. So why is it depraved? You know what I mean? I just, it, it,

Unknown_01: yeah because it's clearly directed at like the child subconscious child part of someone's mind it was a kid's show it wasn't for adults um it was made it was made by the same woman that made like the powerpuff girls which aired on cartoon network but for whatever reason a bunch of guys like i think it was ironic at first a bunch of guys started talking about how great the show was and then a bunch of people not realizing that it was a joke

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Unknown_03: started like like for serious sort of getting into it and it definitely was i don't think it was the intention of the creators because all the voice actresses and writers got harassed and stuff by these guys absolutely not the intention of the creators okay so uh uh you know how jackson pollock worked for the cia but he didn't know that he was a drunk you know commie but that's public record cia wanted to promote

Unknown_01: uh, you know, the Soviets had realistic art. And so the CIA pick, and that's the best guy to pick like a Sean Penn. Are you saying that you think you're the CIA was involved in the bronies?

Unknown_01: Uh, well, I don't know which, I don't care which three letter coven bullshit that tech they've been working on, especially we're using blue light and 2014 might've been when Obama signed the bill to, uh, those energy saver bulbs that deprive you of red now that people pay to get red light you see that rich people go to sin red light because all those bulbs aren't give are only blue light it's stuff that got studied when they made casinos in uh vegas you know they black the windows out you don't know how what time it is all that stuff has been pioneered for quite some time and then um i forget his name the famous jewish gangster that they depicted my godfather too

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Unknown_01: and he's really well known, but I'm just blanking on his name. And he ended up fleeing to Israel. He was friends with Charles Lucky, you know, Charlie Lucky Luciani.

Unknown_01: You know what I'm talking about? He developed that with casino stuff along with CIA. So all these things they've worked on for a long time. I think it's called a carrier wave or something. So it has something to do with, like, the light. Sounds like you're just describing color theory, how colors affect your mood. Well, that's part of it. They affect all of it. But I'm saying they can, because when certain lights are deprived from you, it has effects on the body. So that's why you'll see a lot of- Dude, I got to show you.

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Unknown_02: Hold on. Let me grab something real quick.

Unknown_01: Okay.

Unknown_02: If I can find it.

Unknown_01: Dude, the animation. See, what I'm curious is, if you don't know why they debunked you- I mean, like Tucker Carlson, I don't know if he maybe got fired from Fox, and nobody knew why. Well, it's because he was not lying about Ukraine like the rest of them. That's all.

Unknown_01: So I wouldn't have thought it was that. I would have thought it was like something else. I don't know, but it was about Ukraine. Yeah, I'm sure it's literally the stupidest reason, and it's just like a red dot on the profile that never goes away.

0:32:17
Unknown_02: I don't know where it is.

Unknown_01: Well, it was back then, I'm sure, because this is when a lot of these tech... Like, you know, San Francisco, like a cult gender blobs who are also good. I don't know why all the tech people are always in these weird cults and shit, but this is the time when they're all coming in. And that's that kid talking about shadow banning that little fat kid. That's that real vindictive nerd. Like, like now it's my time and I'm going to have power. And then, so once you, I ran a foul of one of these kinds of people, but not the way you did. But enough that the whole media tried to ruin me like in 2015. I think this chick's a dude now. So fuck you, dude. And I couldn't believe. And then when the Hillary emails got hacked, not him. He's a he now. Her name was in the list of paid off shill independent online journalists. So I was like, why would I be connected to the Hillary files just through this? It's so bizarre. And that's what those little stupid things, man. You're dead right about that. Because when they did the Twitter files hearings, they were engaged in banning small accounts. It's not big accounts. It's small ones. And it's very effective to do that. You got to hit somebody at every level. And when you're that, and cause that'll spread, you know, and they'll, they'll get the message. You're like, I don't matter. However you described it. They literally were doing that. And then I see this guy, Ben, uh, I want to, it might not be, it's not Carson, but the guy that was paying Kevils super chat money. Do you remember that guy from MSNBC?

0:33:23
Unknown_01: Who? The guy when Kevils was getting, uh, sponsored by Collins.

0:33:56
Unknown_03: Was that him?

Unknown_01: Yeah. Ben Collins. Yeah. So I see Ben Collins, who's a major part of this. And it is funded through USAID or was. But at the time, they're all like, it's a big nothing. No, it was not a nothing burger. And then they were propping up that creep selling bathtub hormones.

Unknown_01: And I couldn't believe that there's an intersection between some Kiwi Farms thing and actual national news because we were covering Ben Collins for other reasons.

Unknown_01: He's propping up like Kevles is a sock puppet of his.

0:34:28
Unknown_03: Well, that's what I linked. We had a brief chat about this on Twitter, I think yesterday or the day before, where I talked about how the main antagonist of the forum since Keffels dropped out, literally got addicted to meth and ran away to Ireland and has disappeared basically, is a tech transgender ex-Google employee called Liz Fong Jones. And he, besides being extravagantly wealthy... And litigious is somebody who is like he's like a master of crafting public reputation. And that's like his his side gig. He invested in that company, Tall Poppy, and they have business with people like Catherine Meyer, who's the Wikimedia CEO, Signal Foundation, former NPR, former or current NPR CEO, something like that.

0:35:02
Unknown_01: Like a Hunter Biden level high, a lot of achievements.

Unknown_03: Very evil, nasty woman. And also endorsed by other people of similar caliber on their site, publicly stated on their site. So Liz Fong Jones uses his understanding of the internal mechanisms of Google to and his understanding of public relations and connections to the media through people like Catherine Mayer to manipulate what is found on people on search engines. So if you were to ever search Liz Fong Jones, you would only ever see the most glowing, positive, professional portfolio sites about him. You would never find anything about how he basically admitted he was accused of sexual assault in Switzerland at some point.

0:35:34
Unknown_01: Did you say Switzerland? Yeah.

Unknown_03: Yes, he was doing a tech conference in Switzerland and is still active in the BDSM community and hooked up with a woman there who later accused him of sexual assault. He admitted to this on Twitter at some point.

0:36:18
Unknown_01: You came up with the term consent accident. Yes, exactly.

Unknown_03: It was just a mere misunderstanding. Consent accidents do happen in consent-aware kink.

Unknown_01: and then what was the accident it was like he had a dog hair his story we have never been able to to find the accuser's story because of course a master of search engine optimization is able to uh hide things that they don't want to be found so i've never actually found out what her story was in regards to the consent accident his story is that she has childhood ptsd in regards to dogs and liz fong jones owns a white dog so after they had consensual satisfying sex

0:36:59
Unknown_03: the person happened to see a dog hair on Liz Fong Jones and retroactively revoked consent because of the dog hair.

Unknown_01: Wait a minute. It wasn't during the act they had a flip out about a dog hair. I just say so that you guys, consent accident is the most satanic term I've ever fucking heard.

Unknown_02: That's so creepy. Who came up with that? I've never heard of that. Liz Fong Jones, ex-Google employee. Oh, my God, we had a consent accident. I'm so sorry. I shoved my finger in your asshole.

Unknown_02: Chief Operating Officer of Honeycomb Technology, investor of Tall Poppy, in case you're wondering.

0:37:40
Unknown_03: Friend of Catherine Mayer.

Unknown_01: anyway oh by the way i'm getting uh comment spams that uh josh is a pedo which i i don't think that josh is a pedo but you have dedicated haters that do this this is not ralph people though right i mean there's an intersection of a million different people who hate me and some dude called i don't know how he got my number somebody just like called my number or texted my number really yeah i mean i don't give it like i don't care but i'm not I'm old and I don't have a future. I've been to space. But I watch your show, so I've already heard you out. You know, when people want to do a smear on you, I've heard you, like, reasonable every single time for somebody who's such a bad racist and a bad whatever.

0:38:11
Unknown_01: Like, I don't think you're autistic. I don't think you're autistic. Because when I watch people, like, assign motives to stuff, I honestly got that I have not heard you be unfair to somebody in your analysis of them and I've watched like these like I mean I you know when I watch listen you say you sound like a grizzled cop from the worst neighborhood like this guy Carmen I used to work with at the Wiz that uh he was a cop in Newark he's old Italian so good stories but they're like you know it's such a cynicism I would not have any idea how repulsive like

0:39:02
Unknown_01: online shit is had i not uh seen your show and then that little shit uh what's his name nick fuentes that there's other people like hey go on they want jimmy to have him on and i used to be like that guy's there to put stink on your name he doesn't want to be what this is what i think about him from observing him urging people in the capital on january 6 i haven't heard an explanation of that yet uh He doesn't want to do that job and he has to. And the entire thing is to like put stink on somebody's name for somebody else. I know he did it to a congressional candidate who didn't want to talk to him. And so he made sure to get his picture taken next to him to get the guy to sing his and bragged about it after, which is like if he's not an asset, somebody, then you're just a piece of shit.

Unknown_03: Yeah, I think after January 6, I think that he was compromised because it's actually kind of I remember when he was brand new and there was something about his energy and his performance and his willingness to go out in public and do things and meet and greet fans and hang out with people that all completely vanished after January 6. And he was one of the only people, despite being there and despite having a megaphone, despite being a loud Internet personality that was there, prominent, probably one of the most prominent people there.

0:40:06
Unknown_01: they trot him out as a boogeyman all the time why would they not mention this

Unknown_03: Yeah, he was not charged. And I know people that went to federal prison because they were there as supporters of Nick Fuentes who were charged and who are felons and can't own guns and are having trouble finding jobs and having trouble finding housing. And their lives were basically ruined. And Nick Fuentes, somehow, despite being there, walks out completely scot-free. So as far as federal asset conspiracy theories, I 100% believe that Nick Fuentes is compromised. And What they get out of him, I don't know. But he's in this weird – a lot of stuff, I imagine.

0:40:45
Unknown_01: Well, much like Antifa or Patriot Front or any of these other stupid things that they trot out, they're like a trap like mental defectives. And then they can stitch them up and fake FBI. The FBI has done this for years. They were doing it before the war on terror versus the Muslims. They were doing it. I remember when people were arguing around 2013 who the most terrorist he is. There was a whole racial argument. I looked it up just because I was curious. And it just said eco-terrorism is the most common terrorism. Where I was like, what? It was like property destruction by green freaks, but that's the most terrorism. And then I find out that they find nerds that can't get laid that are young, make up plans for them to do something. They'll have a chick fuck them, or an agent will fuck the person, and they're allowed to entrap you.

0:41:17
Unknown_01: Entrapment doesn't mean what people think it is. For them, it means... I swear to God, there's a legal thing. They have to show that it was in your nature to do this, which seems remarkably abstract for a legal concept. And there's hundreds of people. And then the FBI says, we caught them. So after 9-11, they had a bunch of like special ed terrorists they caught. And it was all bullshit. It was all like just, you know, bullcows. They just rounded up Greenpeace after 9-11 and said, mission accomplished? Say that again?

0:41:48
Unknown_03: They just rounded up Greenpeace after 9-11 and said, mission accomplished?

Unknown_01: No, they did it before 9-11. After 9-11, they converted to Muzzy's to do it too. I would love to get fucked by an agent.

0:42:22
Unknown_01: How do you know you have it?

Unknown_01: Duncan, mothership is lousy with spooks.

Unknown_02: I've never gotten banged by an agent. I'm positive.

Unknown_01: I bet if you played your cards right, you could. I would love to be important enough.

Unknown_02: Did I end up getting seduced by... It's like whatever it takes.

Unknown_01: If they could bribe you with dinner.

Unknown_03: If you move to D.C., you might be able to trick a Chinese spy into thinking you're important.

0:43:01
Unknown_02: Oh, a trained CIA Chinese fuck spy.

Unknown_01: Never be the same.

Unknown_01: She wasn't that hot, neither. It wouldn't be the same.

Unknown_02: It wouldn't be. I promise you. They know tantric stuff. They're reading your mind.

Unknown_02: Oh, God. The prostate massage. A trained CIA prostate massage. And then you can never go back to normal life again. I'll tell you everything. What do you want to know? I'll tell you everything.

Unknown_01: You make it sound so good. Are you kidding? It's like a bivvy shizzer at it.

0:43:36
Unknown_02: Sorry.

Unknown_01: Here, I'll take a comment. Yeah, there's a lot of comments here. All right, so... Duncan has a special talent. He's a psychic.

Unknown_01: What would you call yourself? A remote?

Unknown_02: I would not call it psychic. You know, not to get too nerdy about terms like that. I'm a necromancer. And so I've never been that psychic, but I do use necromantic powers.

0:44:09
Unknown_01: You're lousy with astral parasites. That's fair to say.

Unknown_02: A hundred percent. problem so and i'm not ashamed so this is an amazing skill and somebody in the comments uh yeah there's no super chats i didn't set it up no super chats i didn't set it up properly before i had jurors here i apologize so wait uh in the comments shout out a celebrity and uh and and duncan will display his artistic prowess and i'll give him the stage okay great thank you yeah i guess you have to pull up my the other screen though for people to see it

0:44:41
Unknown_01: Well, I will, but let's not put it up until we get the request. Okay, well, I mean, I've got one up I'd love to show folks, but yeah, I guess you're right. Okay, I'm ready when you are.

Unknown_02: Someone just give me a celebrity. I can't see the chat now because I'm in my art software, Photoshop.

Unknown_01: Hold on, let's see.

Unknown_02: I'm saying Papa John because I can't.

Unknown_02: Papa John.

Unknown_01: Oh, Papa John Schneider. Josh Mood, that's a great one. Okay, Papa John Schnatter, Duncan, I'm going to give you the stage.

Unknown_02: You mean Papa John from Papa John's Pizzas?

Unknown_01: Oh, yes. I think so, yeah.

0:45:15
Unknown_02: Okay, yeah, that's actually a great one. So, all right, yeah.

Unknown_02: Here we go. Anybody in New York, by the way, you can, I'm actually, I've got a gallery opening up next month. I'll give you the details.

Unknown_02: Kurt, you put that up. But yeah, Papa John Schnatter. Okay.

Unknown_01: You just name a celeb and his skills go to work. You would be surprised at how often I get that request.

Unknown_02: It's really interesting how many people are interested in this. But yeah, Papa John, you know, it's a really interesting with Papa John because can you see my screen now?

0:45:58
Unknown_01: Yeah.

Unknown_02: Okay, because what is notable about Papa John is

Unknown_01: Wait, should I add to the stage now?

Unknown_02: Yeah, go ahead.

Unknown_01: Are we sharing the process here?

Unknown_02: Yeah, go ahead. It's not so much the actual cock.

Unknown_00: Right.

Unknown_02: But it's the pubic mound.

Unknown_00: All right.

Unknown_02: Papa John's pubic hair, as described by Janis Joplin, was a primeval force.

0:46:30
Unknown_02: And that you... Somehow, not a lot of people think of their pubic hair as part of the lovemaking process. Supposedly, Papa John could control each individual pubic hair.

Unknown_00: I've heard that too, dude.

Unknown_02: It's insane to think about that. It's been debunked. People say that's impossible. There's no muscles in the pubic hair. There's no way to do it. He said it was chi energy.

Unknown_02: Supposedly, when Papa John was making love to you, the penis itself became a kind of secondary consideration because every single one of these hairs, they would massage. They would penetrate.

0:47:02
Unknown_01: That's very different from a cat, you know, which is a different process. That's amazing. We're going to come back to that drawing in a second.

Unknown_02: Okay.

Unknown_01: I don't know how long we can have this amazing art on the live stream, even though I don't see...

Unknown_01: Anybody have any other celebrities for Duncan to, you're not remote viewing.

Unknown_02: No, it is not. It's necromancy.

Unknown_01: Tower seven was vaccinated. I didn't hear that.

0:47:50
Unknown_01: Jimmy door.

Unknown_01: It's not.

Unknown_01: Oh, George Carlin. Now there's a classic.

Unknown_02: George Carlin. Okay. Now for all the Carlin fans out there, I don't want you to be offended by this. I draw, I draw him like I see him and, uh, I've never been wrong. So, um, don't like, I love George Carlin, big fan, hilarious. One of my favorite comedians. So, and you know, I don't think that I, I don't think you can really judge a comedian based on their, uh, penis, the shape of it, the size of it, the odor.

0:48:25
Unknown_02: Um, But yeah, Carlin supposedly had, I guess you could say, a pretty stinky cock. What? Yeah, I know.

Unknown_02: Yeah, so Carlin, and you find this, sadly, with some of the older comedians.

Unknown_02: Supposedly, Carlin started off with a massive cock.

Unknown_00: This was when he was doing the Weatherman thing and stuff like that.

Unknown_02: He had a huge old hog. And supposedly like the more political he became, the more cynical he became, his penis shrink.

0:48:55
Unknown_01: Well, he had IRS problems too. He's probably taxed a little bit on it.

Unknown_02: It could be stress. It could be anxiety. It could be, you know, who knows what it is, but this was one of the challenges in Carlin's life is he realized that the more every time he released a successful album, his penis would shrink a couple of inches.

Unknown_03: And so- How do you decide if you want to do it straight on or from the side?

0:49:28
Unknown_01: Yeah.

Unknown_03: What's that?

Unknown_02: How do you decide if you want to do it straight on from the side? If you want a profile of Carlin's cock, I'm happy to do that for you.

Unknown_03: I'm asking, do you just usually do straight on unless asked otherwise?

Unknown_02: It's just what I see. The spirits show me something initially.

Unknown_03: Can you only do men? If I asked for Bridget Macron, would you be able to tell me?

Unknown_02: I get asked that. So much.

Unknown_00: Oh, that's a good one, dude. You know, I do kind of, I think it is, like, valid to wonder about that.

0:50:05
Unknown_02: And, you know, I'm going to show you this. And do you want profile or straight on?

Unknown_01: Wait, this is Carlin. Let's go. Okay, Bridget McCrone.

Unknown_01: Well, I'm asking.

Unknown_03: I don't need a drawing. You can do one if you want to.

Unknown_02: No, I'm happy to do McCrone.

Unknown_01: Can you see one at all? What? Duncan. Yeah. I know they're coming for Candace Owen. Can you exonerate Candace Owens or would you be on the defense for LeBron? I'm an artist.

Unknown_02: My job is 100% just doing my portraits. I love it. I love art and I love doing portraits. For me, I try to avoid the political sphere. I don't really see... You know, am I interested in the McCrone penis? Yeah, of course. But purely artistically, as far as Candace Owens issues or whatever, you know, I don't get involved in that stuff.

0:50:40
Unknown_03: But she is being sued for calling Bridget McCrone transgender. So would your drawing be able to exonerate her?

0:51:11
Unknown_02: I'm not a lawyer. I don't know, but I'm happy to draw.

Unknown_01: I'm a dong truther myself. You're not a dong truther. What we're looking at here. You say she's not a guy. She has kids. No, it's not. It's fake.

Unknown_01: In my opinion, don't, France, don't sue me. I don't have nothing. So this, what you're looking at right here is. Oh, my God. I know, man. That'll go on the Patreon, but I mean, it might be evidence. Then we have to submit that as evidence. Yeah, you might get subpoenaed.

Unknown_03: You might get subpoenaed for drawing the penis.

0:51:44
Unknown_01: I might get subpoenaed, but I tell the truth.

Unknown_02: Listen, again, I try to avoid the political sphere. It distracts me from drawing my cocks.

Unknown_02: But yeah, what's really fascinating about the Macron penis is And I wonder if Candace Owens is aware of this. It's an alleged static discharge. Oh, wait.

Unknown_02: Now, yeah, I'm going to try. I mean, it's how do you draw electricity? So I'm just going to do a classic.

Unknown_01: Wait, will you finish that up? I just remembered something, Duncan. Josh, did you... Okay. Because remember, I was like, oh, I don't care about Ricada because I don't follow it. But actually, I do because I want to ask you this. What's up with Robert Barnes? Do you know anything about why that guy is like...

0:52:17
Unknown_03: No, I don't.

Unknown_03: Because he's angry at us. And it's really weird. He represented us in a very brief capacity. And then he started saying these allegations. And it's like, you can't say that. You were our attorney, even though briefly. So when you say things like that... it makes them sound true it makes them sound like you're speaking from privilege access and it's like he hadn't i don't know it's very frustrating it's just because he's making allegations at kiwi farms yeah basically whenever nick ricado says something stupid about the forum he says that it's true and it's like you've represented us and that makes it sound like you have some kind of privilege access to this i saw him make a great about something a while ago and i i like that guy fry does jimmy show i mean i'm not it's like i know them know them but

0:52:48
Unknown_01: He had a good point about there was some new story that Tim Pool did. By the way, this is my Tim Pool beanie. I want everybody to know I will never take this off.

0:53:23
Unknown_03: Is this so you can hide your identity when you're out in the street and you just take that off? Nobody can recognize you.

Unknown_01: I would wear a beanie as a toupee, but my head breaks out. I can't do it. Anyway, I'm watching him talk about this because he tweeted that Candace is cooked. Now, I'm pretty sure she's not cooked, I have to say. The McCrone's already lost a case in France, and she doesn't maliciously know that it's really not a man. She thinks it is 100%. She made a six-part series. She should be the Dong Finder General of America, as far as I'm concerned, because she smells it, but she don't let go. And it was good reporting. And I heard Robert Barnes go, well, she's not a mainstream... He tried to make some qualifier that she's not like mainstream press. And I'm like, is that legal? It just didn't make any sense to me.

0:53:58
Unknown_01: And I'm like, oh, is it because she said something about Israel? A lot of times there'll be this weird thing in the background because of that. But I don't know what it is. The thing with Rukaita is so bizarre to me is he's one of these church guys, but he's like an orgy guy too.

0:54:30
Unknown_03: Yes. You've basically summed up the entire drama in like half a sense. I can't even believe it.

Unknown_02: Hey, guys, can I show you a new cock?

Unknown_01: Yes, go right ahead.

Unknown_02: Okay, now this is going to blow everyone's mind. Mark this. Remember this. That is Candace Owens' massive hog.

Unknown_00: Wait, Candace Owens? Is it because she's black? Come on, now you see why you got debanked.

0:55:08
Unknown_02: Now you see. Now you can't use your ATM. You say things like that, man. No, no. I have used my powers to look at over 50,000 cocks. And I promise you, they range in shape and size. It has nothing to do with black, white. This is Candace Owens' big old dangler.

Unknown_01: So this is disclosure is what you're saying, finally.

Unknown_02: Mark this. Mark this. Because this is what's this. Everybody thinks it's going one way. Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

0:55:41
Unknown_01: Okay.

Unknown_02: This is going to be the final revelation. So it's going to turn out that Candace had a dong?

Unknown_01: Is that your prediction?

Unknown_02: This is why the obsession.

Unknown_01: Dude, if McCrone has a vagina, he's on to something.

Unknown_02: Basic bitch psychology. It's like, you know, as they say, the smeller's the feller.

Unknown_02: Yes, that is what they say. That is proven, too. You can read those studies. But yeah, that's Candace Owens' big, big, big cock. And notice the small arms. That's on purpose. She uses a prosthetic arm extender. She has little, kind of like... tyrannosaurus rex arms and a huge you're telling me that canizo is secretly has small arms and a huge cock is that yeah i'm not a hundred percent that's i'm seeing it right now a hundred percent and the tuck situation that she has to go through takes two hours every day absolutely very very very complex what they have to do banding if she has the tiny arms

0:56:47
Unknown_03: What's that?

Unknown_03: How does she talk? Does she get help from somebody?

Unknown_02: Assistance. She has a team of assistants. That's what they do. They come in early.

Unknown_01: Okay, so it's like having a makeup studio when you're in Hollywood, but just for the time.

Unknown_02: Yeah, there's tons of little boutique businesses out there. That's 100% what they specialize in.

Unknown_01: Look, I am not a baker.

Unknown_01: But, I mean, I'm a supplier.

Unknown_02: Screenshot. Screenshot this. Anyone watching, you'll see.

0:57:19
Unknown_01: All right. I guess we'll mark it down. I mean, I will be happy to say I'm wrong, Duncan. Again, I fear away from the political sphere.

Unknown_02: I just, you know, you draw a tree, try to draw it like the tree. You draw a flower, try to draw it like the flower. Is the flower in a vase in the Kremlin still the same flower?

Unknown_01: Draw what you see, not what you think you see. If you see a big dog and tiny arms, then she's a prosthetic. That's why I avoid the political sphere.

Unknown_02: And I don't think you could be sued for that.

Unknown_01: Wait, okay. So you've been debunked for how many years now? Is it 2014? It's like 10 years this has been going on to you, Josh?

0:57:54
Unknown_03: Yes.

Unknown_01: Okay. I don't think this is going to help that you went on the show, by the way, and I apologize for that. Well, okay. You were saying on your show that they're going to pass this new law. I can't remember what it's called.

Unknown_01: I think it's fair access to financial services. Okay, fair access to financial services. And then you did mention something. I mean, I know that check solution, but I thought on your show you were mentioning something that you thought could in some way work or be done. But maybe I'm mistaken and I went wrong.

0:58:25
Unknown_03: so okay so the act is called fair access to banking act but there was in 2020 there was something called the fair access to financial services rule that was passed by the office of the controller of currency and um it was passed right at the very end of trump's first admin and the very first week joe biden was in office they paused it and never unpaused it and trump still hasn't unpaused his own rule and i don't know why I think that would help. But the main issue with the Banking Act is that it has very limited provisions actually targeting financial services as opposed to banks. And they're the main culprits. And what it does provide is really weak. for many reasons. First of all, it is only up to $10,000 a fine. They don't actually force the financial services to take you back as a customer to let you back on. And it's imposed at the discretion of the controller of currency and his office. So you have to number one, convince the controller of currency to actually take action, which is very difficult because we've had similar laws that we've tried to enforce for the Kiwi farms that for instance, we tried to, we did something in Washington where they have net neutrality on the books and We were deplatformed by an ISP. We were clearly in the right in terms of the net neutrality rules. We asked AG, who at the time was Bob Ferguson, the current governor, to do something about it, and he said no. So that didn't help at all. Having net neutrality on the books meant nothing when the AG doesn't enforce it because it doesn't provide civil relief or a way to sue somebody. So... I think that this is extremely underwhelming. The regulation needs to do more to undo the damage that the Patriot Act did because those regulations are still in the books.

1:00:09
Unknown_01: Oh, right. Yeah, I forgot. That's right. Everything became a real hassle. That Patriot Act for everything.

Unknown_03: It was Title three of the Patriot Act. They did not renew the Patriot Act, but every provision of Title three regarding financial services has since been moved into other parts of the US code and still exists. So the law would have to undo some of that damage. It would have to actually require the financial services to keep you on board. It would have to provide a way you can sue on your own without the permission of the controller of currency. And ideally, it would provide some way to appeal decisions or provide timelines where they either have to report to the FBI that you're actively committing crimes or they have to let you back on, something like that. And it doesn't do any of that. So if it were to pass as it was, it would be a good first step. But it doesn't solve the issue. And just to be clear, we use the word debanking, but the actual banks are not really the issues. Financial institutions like banks and credit unions, they're a small part of the problem. But when we got our bank account closed, We opened an account with Old Glory Bank, which is like an anti-deplatforming bank that's set up, and they've been doing fine. We've been banking with them for over a year.

1:01:22
Unknown_03: But there's literally seven layers to how, when you swipe a credit card, how that gets passed through to the merchant. There's a payment gateway, a payment processor, a payment facilitator, the acquiring bank, the actual card network, and then the issuing bank. So there's so many- All of them, by the way, are points of failure. Any of those decide that you can't bank, you don't get to swipe a credit card anymore. You don't get to receive payments.

Unknown_03: And all of them have risked management as a trade secret. So no matter who it is, you never get told who it was or why. Wow.

Unknown_03: Did someone say Kevin Spacey?

1:02:02
Unknown_01: Yes.

Unknown_02: What do you think?

Unknown_01: Because he's calling for the full release of the Epstein files, I believe. Isn't he, Duncan?

Unknown_02: Well, I would be, too, if I had that big old hog. And, you know, because that's legitimate. The images that Epstein has. And that was an issue, actually. Nice. Yeah. Uh, which was that, um, you know, there was a lot of talk in the Epstein community that, uh, somehow he was using a prosthetic over his penis, but it's not true. Kevin Spacey has a dangerous meat hammer.

1:02:34
Unknown_01: Yeah, that's true.

Unknown_02: It's clubs. You is what I've heard it. Cause he does the whack off a cheap thing.

Unknown_01: So you drew him with a club foot right here. It looks like he has, that's not the member. It's hard to tell, but it's a, what?

Unknown_02: You think he'd go toe-to-toe with Candace Owens?

Unknown_02: Kevin, well, I mean, I think even though Candace Owens has a huge dangler, it's very feminine, very soft, very graceful.

Unknown_01: It's the meat tenderizer.

1:03:09
Unknown_02: And he would flutter it on people's heads.

Unknown_01: And you're saying this is consent. This is the movie of Liz Fong Jones starring Kevin Spacey.

Unknown_02: It's the new Spacey movie coming out. It's called Consent Accident. It's directed by Woody Allen.

Unknown_01: Sorry to interrupt. No, I can't think of a better thing. I think it's a great idea.

Unknown_03: I think they should start production on it immediately.

Unknown_02: They already are. I'm doing the art for the credits, not to brag.

1:03:47
Unknown_01: Believe it or not, I lost my train of thought after that. I don't know how I did it.

Unknown_03: I mentioned the points of failure in the system.

Unknown_01: Oh, so you know what that is? Like a microcosm of our foreign policy, which is like what we've been doing with the Petrodollar, the whole... So, right, when they start saying canceled, and I know it's from black Twitter supposedly and bleep, blah, bloop, but what it is is sanctions. Neocons and neolibs love... They love sanctions. And I don't know why those are not a war crime because, I mean... I don't know if you saw Madeline Albright back in the day. I think it's Leslie Stolls asking her, 500,000 Iraqi children starved to death from those sanctions. Was it worth it?

1:04:19
Unknown_01: Madeline Albright goes, I think so.

Unknown_01: Think about it. And that's what these freaks that want to personally put sanctions on you, they want, if you have a family, they want your family to overthrow you from starvation.

Unknown_03: Yeah, I was wondering where you were going with that, but I kind of agree. They learned at a certain point that with the U.S. controlling everything, that it's much easier just to play with people's money than it is to force them to do something.

1:04:57
Unknown_03: Have you ever read a book by an author? His name is Dr. Theodore John Kaczynski, and he wrote a book called The System's Neatest. Big fan. Oh, me too.

Unknown_01: Grant Zubrick has been labeled a fan as well. Which I'm surprised because I thought she didn't go to school. I didn't know she could read.

Unknown_01: I like his old stuff. Put it that way. I like his acoustic stuff more than his blowing up his secretary. I didn't really get it. I like the writing.

Unknown_03: I'm a big fan.

Unknown_03: He has his magnum opus, which everyone knows. But I like the systems need his trick because I think it describes very well how a conspiracy works. Because when people... who don't think about conspiracies think about conspiracies. They think of people sitting down in a boardroom and you would have to conspire to get like a thousand people in like a giant conference and somehow keep it all quiet. And John Kaczynski's book, the systems in a strict explains in language a child can understand how the system perpetuates itself without an actual physical conspiracy being necessary and how it incentivizes behavior that perpetuates it without anyone being aware of what's going on. And sanctions in the banking are a great example, I feel, of what he's describing because it's a way to keep people in line. Because before we even started the podcast, we're talking to each other. I'm like, hey, is there anything that I can't talk about? And you're just like, whatever keeps the show on on YouTube, right? Yeah, right. and it's like that's a great example because we are actively concerned about what the system wants of us at that moment even though ostensibly we're trying to to change things right or hope to to see change happen and that that applies to absolutely everybody everybody's concerned well what is what is required of me at this moment so that i have less friction in my life and The whole concerns about staying on payment processors and having to go with the flow there is a really, really strong way to keep people online that nobody sees because it affects the merchants. It affects entrepreneurs. It affects businessmen. And the average consumer gets to swipe a card. And when he can't swipe a card, he just thinks, oh, this guy, this store is having an issue and not the foundation of this thing that I'm using is completely like fetid and rotting and conspiring against me at this moment.

1:06:59
Unknown_01: Yeah. First of all, the AI that... ChatGP, all this bullshit they let people fuck around with. Unless they had already studied it to the point of what they're going to do with it militarily and this and that, you wouldn't be allowed to play with it.

Unknown_01: They've studied... You know, like some bullshit like QAnon where a thing's being put out and it's trying to teach people to create like cells of explaining it. It's a limited hangout, they call it. So there's some truths in there mixed with some bullshit to make sure the truth part doesn't come out. And then we put it out there and we see who talks about it. You're like dying the water to see the source. And then all that metadata that they've been taking all this time, all this is the Patriot Act. You know, the AI is required. I'm guessing the AI has to go through all that at a moment's notice.

1:07:39
Unknown_02: Well, Josh, what you're saying is terrifying. And no one realizes it until it happens to them. It happened earlier. It's called digital sharecropping, and it's all of us are doing it. And let me tell you, once we are fully wrapped up in AI, which is talk about like only a few, you got Claude, you got ChatGPT. Wait until the fucking rug gets pulled out from under you there. Wait until you're not allowed to use your neurological link to connect to chat GPT. It's not just financially you're fucked. It's like you're not going to be able to compete or do anything anymore without it. And that's what we're all getting. We already have something that's kind of like that in regards to when I was a teenager, I thought that when I went into it, I did programming as a teenager.

1:08:13
Unknown_03: And I thought when I was an adult, I would have, It's so much competition and programming. There's no way I would ever find a job or find a way to do anything because there'd just be so many technically competent people that there would be no use for a programmer because everybody would know how to program. And what I've seen is actually the opposite. People are more incompetent than ever before. They have no fucking idea how their computer works and they can't do anything on their own. And it's really remarkable how infantilized everybody has become in regards to technology, despite how ubiquitous it is. And they rely on more and more centralized services where in the past people ran their own things. Yeah, we're fucked.

1:08:55
Unknown_02: We're fucked. The anarchists call that de-skilled. And, you know, what's his face? The guy, Buckminster Fuller, he talked about specialization is like the doom of our planet. I was working on the Unabomber's cock. I'm not done yet.

1:09:40
Unknown_02: But, you know, yeah, we're like it's like I remember. I don't know if you remember when that shit happened with the ATMs. I don't know what it was, but all of a sudden, like all these ATMs went down. Remember that people just forgot about. And I remember I was at a hotel. How about that poison gene therapy that they mandated for people to get?

Unknown_01: And by the way, the only person who made zero mistakes during the pandemic was Rogan. A guy who's not a doctor. He didn't say one wrong thing.

1:10:14
Unknown_02: Don't tell me you're against the vaccine all of a sudden. Are you?

Unknown_01: Well, I just. I just got it.

Unknown_02: I got one today. I get it. I get it.

Unknown_01: I get it.

Unknown_02: I get them every week.

Unknown_01: You should be on the 14th now, I think, right? Oh, I'm on the 35th booster. I feel great.

Unknown_02: I did actually get COVID, which is weird.

Unknown_01: What's the final score of boosters to COVIDs?

1:10:48
Unknown_02: It's weird because every time I get the booster, I get COVID.

Unknown_01: Well, that's a tie. Then you tied. Yeah.

Unknown_03: I've never caught COVID either. I've never been vaccinated. You should get vaccinated.

Unknown_02: Both of you need to get vaccinated.

Unknown_01: I've got a great vax man.

Unknown_02: I'll take you to my vax man.

Unknown_01: You got a good vax guy?

Unknown_02: He's great.

Unknown_01: got it she worked at getty when i first met her and uh she ended up tie she like as art she shouldn't be art curator but i can't remember what job she has she have a phd so she can move up but they the people that work there are maniacs okay that's like the getty pays dick it's rich kids that live with their parents and they're those millennial kind of like my parents could die if i get sick You know, like they had this overwrought thing and she, you know, a Sikh Indian guy tied Getty up in some kind of HR court thing so she didn't have to get it. Well, I'm not smart like that. I got two. Two Pfizer's.

1:11:34
Unknown_02: Good job. Thank you for protecting us. Thank you for protecting the community.

Unknown_01: Well, I wouldn't want to harm the other, my fellow astronauts, you know, it's an enclosed space.

Unknown_01: It's no joke. Yeah.

Unknown_02: I've never heard that in my whole life from anyone.

Unknown_01: It's the most crazy thing that anyone ever said. Don't do your research. Okay. And then you would sign a waiver that says, in case I die or something, I can't sue you. I know that.

1:12:14
Unknown_01: Which most people don't know. They signed it. And you have to wait there 20 minutes in case you die. Nobody thought that was... I mean, I was just fine with it. I couldn't tell you why. None of that bothered me. But it didn't bother me till it did, I guess. You know, like I live in New York. We went to 9-11. We went to Iraq. Plenty of people said that doesn't make any sense. And I was like, shut up. I guess you just can't keep tricking me with the same things over and over. You can trick me a few times, but like not for 20 straight years.

1:12:47
Unknown_02: Wait till hemorrhagic fever hits.

Unknown_01: How's the... This is amazing. this is what Greta Thunberg, I think appealed to her about him.

Unknown_02: Well, yeah. I mean, look, we can't, uh, I like that you're talking about his great writing. Um, and, and you're separating it. You know, we, if we, if we're going to like stop listening to people just cause they, you know, did sort of nonstandard, uh, uh, Then what are we going to do? What's next? Who do we stop? I guess Isaac Newton, we shouldn't pay attention to what he wrote because he had mercury in his head. It's insane.

1:13:21
Unknown_01: He was a fake, that guy.

Unknown_01: Yeah, I'll go there.

Unknown_02: I think what's fascinating about the Unabomber's penis is how similar it is to many of the drawings you'll see of the Bodhi tree that the Buddhists have in real estate.

Unknown_01: Really?

Unknown_02: Yep. and you know there are a lot of people who were intimate with kaczynski talked about he would like after making love he would extend his penis like a tree and and he invite you to sit under it and meditate and people claim like moments of full realization wow in the shadow of the uni bombers cock like that that's a joni mitchell song they didn't release

1:14:16
Unknown_01: I mean, I get a lot of great information between Josh explaining this debunking thing and this. I think I've put out a lot of great derp today on the derp with the derp.

Unknown_03: You know, I can't remember which book it was, but in one of them, he says that he got really addicted to porn and was considering doing gender transition. This was back in like the 70s, I want to say. The Unabomber. Yeah, yeah. I distinctly remember this because it was shocking to me. I never heard this. And he ended up going to a gender clinic in Colorado because it was the only gender clinic that did the surgery at this point in time. And he said when he was there for his appointment, he saw all the other transgender people coming in and out. And he was so disgusted by them that he ran out and returned home and decided that he was going to start destroying things and killing people.

1:14:53
Unknown_02: By the way, I 100% believe, I mean, it's his book, but everybody, like, I know people think it's just like a part of his past or something, but he's MKUltra.

Unknown_01: That's like a fact. So here's what happens with MKUltra. They can put a hypnotic suggestion to make Manchurian candidates that do all kinds of stuff. So let's say a guy wrote a book about how fucked up all this shit is. It's very accurate. And then inexplicably, it's because you know how his writings make sense, and then it's like, well, I don't understand why blowing up this guy's secretary helps with that. That doesn't make any sense. It probably hurts your argument. Oh, that's the idea. So part of that MKUltra stuff, they need people... Like they need people that could be a killer or a spy or gay or straight. When we tell you to be programmable, And that's really what the whole, why bring in Bengal over and what all that's about. And especially Colorado.

1:16:04
Unknown_01: Anytime you hear about something out of Colorado, that's a real bad place for this kind of shit. Arizona is a real bad place. And what's the other one always from? There's always something with aerospace, definitely MK ultra. And think of the people you've heard of publicly that are MK ultra. It's all like these famous maniacs. They make movies about. It's Whitey Bulger. Ken Kesey.

Unknown_02: Ken Kesey. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest got MKUltra'd. He was one of the people to see.

Unknown_01: And these are the ones that are just known. And I don't know if people go like, oh, they had a traumatic experience and went on to just be crazy. But that's not how that works. The whole point of MKUltra was to create these things so you could slowly do what they already done did.

1:16:39
Unknown_02: Well, you know, if I had to theorize about Kaczynski, because, you know, they were giving him, like, the experiments they were doing were so fucked up.

Unknown_01: He said he didn't think it was MKUltra, but, you know, shit. No one did.

Unknown_02: They were humiliating him, but I would not be surprised if they were injecting his ass with ketamine because there seems to be something that happens to long-term ketamine users that they start getting gender dysphoria. Like John Lilly, the guy who had been in the float tanks, he got breast implants. There's like lots of things.

1:17:11
Unknown_01: Whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't know that part of it. That's interesting. Yeah. We don't have time to get into that one, but Doug, I'll get into that with you because that's actually... John Lilly, he was in his crazy... He's a piece of shit, that guy. John Lilly? Oh, yes. He's a bad person. Was he really?

Unknown_02: I know he sounds like a good man because he got tits for no reason, but no, he's actually really bad.

Unknown_01: Yeah, what the fuck, man? I know he had a lady fuck a dolphin in a submerged house for a NASA experiment. Let me just say on behalf of John Lilly, I don't think he made anybody fuck the dolphin.

1:17:47
Unknown_02: That was a seductive dolphin. That was a horny dolphin. No joke. No joke.

Unknown_01: Yeah. Peter, he had a name. You can say it. Peter the dolphin.

Unknown_02: Yeah. Peter the dolphin was like, like he had moves and like supposedly. So I don't know. I mean, I don't know the story.

Unknown_01: You're supposed to just live together, but the dolphin became more compliant with the experiments. Yeah. uh if she gave him a hand dolphins are horny creatures man can we see yeah what was the experiment for you want to see if you could for among other things teach a dolphin to speak english so i could have told him that don't work dude my english does not improve when i get hand jobs you know i i make dolphin he's a fool john willie and he's got tits so he basically this is a nasix guy and he's basically steve-o but he he went through with it unlike steve-o

1:18:41
Unknown_02: I mean, I do know that he had breast implants. I don't, I never heard he was awful. All these freaks at the top of this thing, they all are about being androgyne.

Unknown_01: Because that's a very, well, we just talked about your show, that occultic significance of being mad. I know what you're, I fucked a dolphin, okay?

Unknown_02: Just say it.

Unknown_01: Thank you, just say it. Just say it, I know that's what's on your mind, trying to make me feel bad.

Unknown_02: I don't feel bad at all.

Unknown_01: Fucked a dolphin. I don't even judge that, dude. I know they're... I feel like you do. I feel like that whole thing... The dolphin I fuck is not... I wouldn't call it innocent. You know, Duggan, the thing you're saying is a joke, by the way. The stuff that goes on Kiwi Farms on his site, and this is why they... The reason you're getting debunked is because very, very powerful degenerate perverts want this shit out there like that. And they want people to go like... It's not incompetence. It's malice. It's pure malice. That... awful one from Google that knows Catherine Marr. First of all, Catherine Marr might as well be a V-Lizard. She looks like one of the old TV show V-Lizards. Like that blonde hair and you pull her face down, there's lizard face. She's an absolute creep. I think she's connected to Wef. Dude, tell Josh. Remember when you had a guy that was trying to get, which is, the amount of things Duncan is connected to is insane, but I attribute it to his artistic skills personally.

1:19:50
Unknown_02: No, I work for the CIA, and every time Josh talks about being debanked, I've been intentionally derailing it because I get money for doing that. Sorry, Josh, but I got to do it. I got kids.

Unknown_03: That's okay. You got to keep on that grind.

Unknown_02: I'm sorry, dude. I like you, man. But shit, what am I going to fucking do?

Unknown_01: What did you tell me about that guy that wanted you to go there? Remember that? And you said he got held up a grimoire.

1:20:22
Unknown_02: Dude, yeah, that was pretty fucking weird. That was a weird thing. But you know what? Really, I think people like that, it's not so much their interest in my yappy ass. They think that I can lure Rogan. or something you know i never get the sense that it has anything to do with me having some like something they give a fuck about dude i watch people trash rogan on things like does he not know this guy's lying like no stupid he obviously knows what he's gonna do he's letting them see if you let the people talk they hang themselves they really do i just don't think people can't talk you shouldn't you shouldn't have None of us should have that. It is when you consider like the amount of money it used to cost to get someone on TV and broadcast that to the world, the glory days of propaganda. That was wonderful.

1:21:02
Unknown_01: The 90s? For anyone wanting to control the narrative.

Unknown_02: Then suddenly you just get, it doesn't matter the political leanings of anybody. It's the magnitude. You're not supposed to have that. Right.

Unknown_01: That's why they say platform like that.

Unknown_02: yeah exactly that's that's that's up that's got to be upsetting if you've spent all your time trying to like control narratives and now people like like you are just up there saying like josh over here i don't even think he is debanked it's all not true guys get vaccinated all right because you can't work at nasa without your boosters but You got it.

1:22:00
Unknown_01: Yeah. This, you know, the Clintons are the ones that signed that FCC thing. So in the nineties, we went down to six media companies from like 90 or something, but that's part of the plan because it's the banking thing is another version of it. You could really just scale these up and down to everything. Like it, it's always the same thing it's like a little insidious thing that nobody notices or cares about until it bothers them and then uh i do identity politics to make you hate somebody else so maybe it's a thing going they're going through that actually will screw you too but you're too stupid to know that because you're going to be in high school for your entire life that's in school designed to make it like that too by the way that's what i would recommend everybody read tragedy and hope by carol quigley who was a Georgetown professor, and he explained the New World Order, the thing that they always used to say openly. Now they call it the rules-based order. Alex Jones didn't make it up. It's from a George H.W. Bush speech, a Clinton speech. It's just NATO. They have a million words for it. Anyway, who was behind it? It actually was not Israel. That wasn't the head of the stake. It was actually England, Cecil Rhodes in England. And they brought America back in the fold in World War I. So that's when public school was invented. And people were shooting at the federal agents trying to take their kids to public school at the time. And that's why school is like a shitty, boring factory setting to get you used to your life. This is all... Not secrets, like open things they said about why they were doing this. They go, we got plenty of doctors and we got plenty of artists and, you know, whatever. We need people that work in my factory. This is like the memo about public education because it's always one of these dickheads writing the policy. So what Josh just described about how that law is not going to affect anything, that's because the collection of those tech freaks got together and told Trump, this is the thing that's going to be really good and protect everybody. I already watched Mark Andreessen try to sell it on Rogan. So it's PayPal mafia. I mean, they are mafia. It's all those little shitheads. And all they do is make the laws around what benefits them so that there's not any fair competition ever. Well, from a technocrat perspective, the law is not bad.

1:23:56
Unknown_03: It doesn't hurt anything, but it's not effective enough to be useful. Just real quick, what you're describing, by the way, is the Prussian model. It was developed in Prussia because it was an effective way to turn young men into soldiers, and that's what they converted into the public school system after... or during world war one um what you're describing with the companies is what i was describing with quasi public private enterprises where you have all the downsides of a government entity and then all the downsides of a private entity combined in a way that they're both exotic they have to they say we're just following rules we're following the regulations and then you can't appeal them because even though the regulations it's like you don't have any rights because they're a private company so uh you're screwed either way so that's that great there's really only one form of government which is feudalism it turns out and that i used to always say this when you argument about like getting health insurance or something oh you want the government to run uh no i'd like a corporation the size of a government that i literally have no rights to sue them or anything i'd rather that When you say a corporation the size of the government, consider this. Stripe is a payment processor, so it's not even one of the big payment networks. It's just a processor.

1:25:24
Unknown_03: In 2024, they process through their network, and they're a $90 billion evaluated company. They process through their network $1.4 trillion, which is 1.2% of the entire world's GDP. So for every dollar that is spent in the entire world in 2024, 1.2 cents of that went through Stripe. So it's just an astronomical, incalculable, un-fucking-believable amount of money and power that traverses just over... That's not even the entire consumer financial system. That is just that one company. Josh, do you think it's hopeless, man?

1:26:00
Unknown_02: Like, you know, what you're experiencing? My rule is this.

Unknown_03: I've described this to people in my forum and stuff, but it's like an engineer's triangle or like a quadrant where you have two axes. One is if you are optimistic or pessimistic, and the other is the reality. If you are pessimistic and the reality is that you're doomed, you're doomed anyways, and you don't get a consolation prize for being right about thinking that you're doomed. If you're doomed and you think that you're not doomed and that you can change things positively, you're still doomed anyways, and you don't get punished any worse than being right about it. Then on the other end, if you are not doomed, if things aren't screwed, but you think that they are, you will fuck yourself over. You will lose the opportunity to fix things because you didn't try and you didn't believe that you had any hope. And then, therefore, the only viable solution is to believe that you have a potential to fix things, but then hope that that's true, that you can. Because everything else, it doesn't matter anyways.

1:26:41
Unknown_01: What the hell are you going to do? Dude, you're not going to kill nobody. Everybody can just tell the truth all the time and stop being a fucking cow. I don't know why... Just a baby step. Try not being a fucking liar high school popularity contest person every second of your goddamn cow life. I bet you that would change a lot of things.

1:27:20
Unknown_01: Mark, I just realized because I got to go do Jimmy Dore show very soon.

Unknown_01: I never got to test out my button. How do I access that button?

Unknown_01: Let me bring on Mark, the producer.

Unknown_01: Mark, you there?

Unknown_04: Yeah, I'm here. Did you hear that?

Unknown_01: No. I saw it before in my display, but I want to play it before I go.

1:27:52
Unknown_04: Oh, okay. Hold on a second.

Unknown_01: This is what I think sums up my feelings about what Josh just said today.

Unknown_01: Where'd Duncan go?

Unknown_03: I think I killed him on accident.

Unknown_00: I gave him a mouth problem and he flatlined.

Unknown_01: Yeah, Duncan has been invited to... No, I can't hear it. You got it...

Unknown_01: Do I just play it on my phone to do the thing? That was not loud, was it? No.

1:28:28
Unknown_04: I tried to share it with you through StreamYard, but it only lets you stream video files.

Unknown_01: Let me text it to you. Yeah, I saw a bunch of videos I could maybe play if I wanted.

Unknown_04: I clipped the sound bite.

Unknown_01: Yeah, because look, I'm just going to sum up what you say when you're being faced with this.

Unknown_01: There we go. I think Duncan was just killed.

Unknown_03: I'm sorry.

1:29:01
Unknown_01: It's because of your hatred. Dude, I watch your show, so I've seen people say all kinds of dumb shit about you. I've been through this myself where people just say nonsense, but a lot of people are watching and notice who's lying at the end of the day, so I don't really give a fuck. And I can tell you, a long time ago, when I was going through it, and I had the wildest lies about me going around that I could not believe. I knew they sucked, the media, but I didn't know they just could just lie, lie like that. That's how Pollyanna I would be. But someone put a thing on Kiwi Farms that was very... Who the hell was it? They knew something about it, and I was like, holy shit. Only spot I saw that wasn't picking up shit about me.

1:29:33
Unknown_03: Yeah, it's...

Unknown_03: it's a strange thing where if you've never met somebody before, that is just like a pathological liar. You don't really expect people just to make shit up. That's completely untrue. And cause it catches you by surprise. And then it's like, if you try to say anything about it, you just look guilty, you know? Cause now you're like denying it. So what was used, what was a complete fiction that someone invented is now something that you're litigating in the court of public opinion. And it's just like, You always lose, basically.

1:30:13
Unknown_01: King Kong swatting the planes at the end of the day. All right, let's see. Okay, I guess I just have to play it, huh?

Unknown_01: Hold on.

Unknown_01: Let's hope this works. This is high tech. Oh, that's not right. He's supposed to say bullshit twice. There's a great clip where a guy's getting carried out of the airport going, Bulge, you just put the black person part?

Unknown_01: That's not going to work. Look. I'm going to give you the thing. I'll just play the thing. Now, everyone at home.

1:30:45
Unknown_03: What did you say?

Unknown_01: You sound like a black person right now. Okay. So it's a guy. It's from Instagram. It's actually one of the greatest things I've ever seen. It's a guy who is being taken out of the airport. I think in Austin, it looks like. And he's on a stretcher. He's just screaming at the top of his lungs.

Unknown_01: He goes, bullshit, bullshit. I'm being treated like a black person right now.

Unknown_00: Yeah, maybe it's over here. It's really an inspiring message. I think we all are in some way.

1:31:18
Unknown_01: Yeah, well, that's the point. I tried to explain this to both Kumia and McGinnis when I was trying to explain to them that Nick's clearly some kind of fed and a homo, obviously. I can't believe that would be a question. And I happen to know A guy from Young Turks who's dead now from COVID. I can't remember his name. He wrote a book on the alt-right online.

Unknown_01: And he was sitting on the video of Destiny sucking Nick Fuentes' dick for three years because he was working on his book.

1:31:51
Unknown_01: The liberal math would be, well, I don't want to bring his sexuality into it, but bullshit. You're writing an online boogeyman book? and and you don't want to ruin this ultimate bad guy that really not that many people give that much of a about but he was writing destiny as all right no but the video destiny sucking his dick uh from what i understand is 100 real it is yeah and it but real like reporters who would say they're real journalists no knew about it before you knew about it or i don't know when you knew about it but It was recent where that got leaked.

Unknown_03: That got leaked anonymously. I don't know where that came from.

1:32:26
Unknown_01: The dude, I can't remember his dumb name. I'm sorry. He worked on Young Turks. He died of COVID recently. He wrote a book about the online.

Unknown_03: Oh, you're saying that the video was of Fuentes getting a blowjob. Yeah. It could be. That's the meme. I don't know if that's true or not, though.

Unknown_01: I know. from someone inadvertently who doesn't follow any of this telling me i go did you hear because oh yeah i knew about that a while ago i go what because he works with them people and that guy that passed away that wrote his online right book i'm sorry i don't remember his stupid name but kind of him for this someone gave him that video early on and he just sat on it and didn't put it out and didn't want to talk about it because he's writing a book about these dangerous bad guys and and the leaker and the author both believe that that was fuentes I don't... The leaker was... Fuentes leaked it to him. I don't know about that, but this guy knew about it. If you knew Hitler was gay, having his dick sucked by a popular... What is he, like, centrist streamer? You wouldn't stop Hitler as a liberal journalist? I don't believe you. I think it's that you need a boogeyman, and you don't want to, like... Not that you're in on him being an asset or anything like that. It's just that... like andrew tate or somebody that i don't give a shit about i don't know about him i don't give a fuck i don't understand why it's a thing but if i have a media company where or any kind of thing where i need to like be mad at something that i need that guy there so it automatically becomes like wrestling and these people support each other in weird ways that i wouldn't have realized you know what i mean yeah kind of where it's like you need this guy's like a an approved target that you can worry about endlessly

1:34:05
Unknown_01: That's exactly right. Then when you go back and look at shit like what Gloria Steinem, who is very the famous feminist. But looking back, it was just like she was a playboy model term feminist. She was a CIA agent. That's just well known. That's not even a secret thing. Came out a while ago when they said Julia Childs was a CIA asset. And the reason that they brought her out there was because the actual rad femmes were like like ugly commie chicks that were lesbians. And so we need to take the air out of all these movements and replace them with an appropriated fake movement that we control. it's basically just what Vince McMahon would do with, uh, you know, Julia Childs was a feminist.

1:34:37
Unknown_03: I only know her from cooking.

Unknown_01: She was a CIA asset agent and Gloria Steinem was a CIA agent, the feminist and boss hog. Believe it or not.

Unknown_03: Yeah. I only know her from, I shared the, uh, the link in the chat.

Unknown_04: You did. All right. Well, I'm sure this way.

Unknown_01: Yeah. Unless you want me to share my screen and Duncan, uh,

Unknown_04: Duncan's computer died. He said he's got to go.

Unknown_01: Well, he did a man's work today.

Unknown_04: Too many cocks.

Unknown_03: Photoshop just completely filled up.

1:35:15
Unknown_01: Let's see.

Unknown_01: Won't you play?

Unknown_01: Son of a bitch.

Unknown_00: I'm going to just play it on here because this is annoying. I pulled it up.

Unknown_04: You can play it? Yeah, just let me on right there at the bottom. Yeah. Pull up a screen share I just put on.

Unknown_01: Okay, nice. Let's hear this amazing. I can't hear it.

1:35:49
Unknown_05: No.

Unknown_00: Yeah, I can't hear it.

Unknown_04: Hold on. One last try. One more. Kurt.

Unknown_01: What'd you say? Look, I'm playing it in here and then I gotta go because I gotta go on Jimmy Dore's show. But Josh, I really appreciate you coming on, man. I didn't even know you got my message way back when.

Unknown_03: Uh, you mentioned me on Jimmy Dore's show and I got like 20 messages immediately. So, um, yeah, I, I, uh, I, I, yeah, I pulled you up and I saw that I missed the message for me like in 2024, I think cause my account got banned immediately afterwards for a while. So yeah, I just threw out messages on whatever.

1:36:22
Unknown_01: Uh, uh, but I'm glad because I watch the show a lot and so few of these people talk about anything that matters at all. so i was i'm shocked when i see this come up but i assume it's just from running like tech a lot of the the way the game works is people don't look in lanes that aren't their lane just like yeah but i watch everything all right i think with a lot of podca podcast hosts and stuff i they just look at what's trending on twitter and they just give their take on that and their take you can predict you know immediately so yeah i try really hard to just

1:37:00
Unknown_03: tried really hard to avoid looking at that because it's just like it's all fake anyways you know what i mean yeah it's garbage i i already been through it so i don't give i literally don't give a like you know i don't care about social death that means literally nothing to me but uh

Unknown_01: Yeah, it's a guy in the airport. He's sitting straight up on a stretcher.

Unknown_01: And I like that he wasn't racist. He was just reporting the news straight. They're being treated like a black person.

Unknown_00: All right, that's the first Dirt with Curp.

Unknown_01: You all just got dirt, but thank you. I'm sorry that I couldn't make super chats to make any money off this. I'm pretty accomplished.

Unknown_01: um but uh josh come back thanks a lot i do really appreciate it and uh i'm glad you explained that so well because i'm not actually smart enough to explain it as well as that so that helped a lot uh mark thank you thank you duncan trussell uh we'll be back next week bye and i said did it end