A Conversation with Channing Creager 2023-12-09

0:00:33
Unknown_00: Hello, so here's what's happened. I have been in contact with Channing for the last two weeks.

Unknown_00: She announced to me that she was going to take a trip to Central Europe. She concluded her trip. Throughout that time, she was relaying daily information about an outline she was putting together. She said she had all sorts of clips and stuff. She sent over all her information. And then an hour before the stream, she started sending me very spastic messages every couple of minutes about going live. And I had had a tech issue. I had switched over operating systems to Windows.

0:01:11
Unknown_00: And I was doing last minute work to try and get my usual streaming setup ready. And I told her I usually do like a pre-stream chat about 10 to 15 minutes before the stream goes live. She sent me many, many messages over this time as I was trying to work on getting the stream set up. 15 minutes ago, so about 13 minutes before the turn of the stream, I sent her a Google Hangouts link.

Unknown_00: and she read that and never joined and uh didn't read my subsequent messages so i'm gonna wait a couple of minutes um she left my last two messages asking like are you gonna join to like talk and if she doesn't in the next

0:02:01
Unknown_00: Five to 10 minutes. Um, I'm just going to close the stream, but that's what's, uh, what's what's happening. It's very bizarre. Cause she was in. Oh, there we go. Okay. Give me a second. I have to turn that message off. I'm on windows. I'm out of my element. Let's see.

Unknown_01: Okay.

Unknown_00: So she said, let's go. But I sent her the hangouts link to do like a mic check.

Unknown_00: okay join hangouts at any time when she joins that i will um

0:02:41
Unknown_00: I will mute the audio of the stream to talk to her for a bit, and then I will go live.

Unknown_00: Sorry. This is a bit weird. Um, I don't, I guess I wasn't clear with her that I usually do the stream abruptly at the turn of the hour, you know, like an actual like, Hey everybody, it's this time. Let's uh, we're going to go live. She, I guess she thought that I would just start at any time between the last hour and an hour after six. I'm like in that vague realm of time.

Unknown_00: Uh, can't I just go over what she sent me? She sent me a, um, a large, uh, like file who I am. I'm actually extremely concerned about this at this point in time. I'm going to, I'm going to be real with you because like I sent her the link and now the messages I'm getting are not nonsensical.

0:03:24
Unknown_00: Just click.

Unknown_01: Stop worrying. Enjoy the super chat money.

0:03:58
Unknown_00: I've got like the $2. I don't make money off these. I sent her the link again.

Unknown_01: Okay. Okay.

Unknown_01: There we go. One second. I'm muting.

0:04:49
Unknown_01: Okay. She briefly joined the call with like a video chat.

Unknown_00: I'm just going to be real with you guys.

Unknown_00: And then like dipped out without saying anything. I'm going to be real.

Unknown_00: It's maybe a disaster. This may be a total disaster. I'm just warning you right now. The total disaster. I want you to know I've been professional and courteous the entire way.

0:05:36
Unknown_01: My voice is great. My voice is always cracking. There's nothing, there's nothing to say.

Unknown_00: Cause now I'm like, I sent her the link. She joined, she said something and then dipped.

Unknown_00: So.

0:06:25
Unknown_01: Put the hamster on. I mean, I feel... I'm gonna send a message to somebody.

Unknown_00: Just let it go. I'm gonna give her a chance, because I don't know what's happened.

Unknown_00: And I would like to know what's happened before I conclude this.

0:07:29
Unknown_01: Okay.

Unknown_00: I'm going to, I'm going to give this until like 15 minutes. It might just be dead air until then. I apologize. Cause I, I like to do these things kind of prompt, but read the super chats.

Unknown_01: Oh, okay. She wants to do it on signal. Maybe she can do it on, on hangouts. Give me a second.

0:11:05
Unknown_01: Yeah, she called on signal and I joined on signal and, um, I couldn't hear anything.

Unknown_00: I'm certain that it was not my fault on that sound of silence. It's true.

0:11:41
Unknown_00: Uh, she just keeps asking me random things in German. She says, where is that? And it's like, I sent you the Google Hangouts link.

Unknown_00: I don't.

0:12:20
Unknown_00: Okay, I'm about to give up. She says, I'm ready. Well, I've been ready for the last 15 minutes, 30 minutes, actually, at this point, dude, it's, it's so frustrating. Cause it's like, she's obviously, I don't know. Give me a second. I'm about to, I'm about to bail though. Cause I'm, I'm pretty pissed.

Unknown_00: He keeps talking to me in German. I just don't understand. Like, he has a conversational understanding of German because she didn't do a lingo to visit Germany. Okay.

0:12:56
Unknown_00: I, okay, listen, if you're assuming that she's fucking with me, let me explain. She posted her ID. She posted a bunch of documents. I have like all of her rental agreements with the Sam Hyde and MDE. I have her. Oh my gosh.

0:13:27
Unknown_01: She's trying to signal again.

0:14:32
Unknown_01: Okay. So, uh, please.

Unknown_00: Okay. No, uh, I'm Josh. I run a website called the Kiwi farms and this is Shannon Crager. She says that she's worked with Indy and Sam Hyde for eight years. Is that right?

Unknown_00: Nine years.

Unknown_00: All right. Sorry. I got you. Um, so yeah, just introduce yourself. How did you meet Sam?

Unknown_02: uh on um and very embarrassing I met him on uh on uh so embarrassing I met Sam Hyde on OkCupid

0:15:17
Unknown_00: Okay. Cupid.

Unknown_00: Does his profile stand out to you? How old was he when he met him? Just as a contact.

Unknown_02: He was 32 and I was, uh, two years younger than him.

Unknown_00: Okay. And he worked with him for, for nine years, you said. So he's, uh, is he in his forties now? Yes. Okay.

Unknown_00: Um,

0:15:48
Unknown_00: How did you get into his business?

Unknown_02: Because I was very good at doing everything. I made, and I will show, I made beautiful

Unknown_02: I made stuff that was people doing stuff. Can you give an example?

0:16:27
Unknown_02: Yeah.

Unknown_02: Christmas example. Christmas example.

Unknown_00: What Christmas example?

Unknown_02: It was Christmas example and

Unknown_02: I don't know after that.

Unknown_00: Okay. Out of curiosity, um, we've been talking for about two weeks now and throughout that time. Yeah, we've been talking for a long time, by the way.

0:17:05
Unknown_00: Yeah. For about two weeks, we've tried to, uh, to get ready for the stream and, uh, Josh, I'm trying to be your girlfriend.

Unknown_02: Maybe.

Unknown_00: What did you take before we called? Because you were not like this. No, nothing.

Unknown_02: Nothing. I didn't take anything.

Unknown_00: That's obviously a lie though.

Unknown_02: No, I do have some, uh, Christmas, uh, uh, Christmas mushrooms.

0:17:38
Unknown_00: So you took psychedelic mushrooms before like an hour before stream? Cause you, we were, you were sending messages.

Unknown_02: I didn't take, I didn't take those.

Unknown_00: That's obviously a lie though.

Unknown_02: no no i didn't take those i give them to my friends and i'm ready to do the streams and explain everything okay

Unknown_00: Well, there's no point continuing because you're obviously fucked up on something. And what's really sad is that people are going to assume that this is something that Sam Hyde put somebody up to. And I've seen your ID. I've seen your rental agreements. I've seen all your paperwork. So I know that this is the real person. You come up completely fucked up.

0:18:17
Unknown_02: I'm not fucked up on anything, bro. I'm not fucked up on anything.

Unknown_00: Everybody and everybody listening to us. There's like a thousand plus people listening to us and they're all I mean every single person can tell I don't even know why you would try to lie about that because you can just tell 45 minutes ago, so you obviously took like a handful of Xanax or something and before you came on stream Xanax you think I took Xanax Bro, you think I took Xanax?

0:18:57
Unknown_00: What's really unfortunate is that if there is, my point in talking to you is that I wanted to know if there was any validity to serious accusations. And if there is any validity, you have completely fucked this up for the people that Sam hurt. And you were like, you tried to rope in a bunch of other people who I can't even talk about now. Cause like three different people have showed ID to try and arrange this.

Unknown_02: That's not me. And I didn't do that.

Unknown_02: on the like on the real. I didn't do that.

0:19:37
Unknown_02: I didn't do anything on the real. Oh.

Unknown_00: OK.

Unknown_00: Yeah, I don't know, like.

Unknown_00: I don't even know what to ask you, because it's like, you can't describe, I asked you the very first thing, but how did you get into MDE from meeting Sam Hyde on OkCupid? And you can't describe that. You said something about Christmas.

Unknown_02: Well, I will talk about it in the next segment.

Unknown_02: I will talk about it in the next segment. And I wish I didn't have to do that, but I will. I will talk about it.

0:20:09
Unknown_00: What segment, why just explain how you went from meeting Sam Hyde to getting into MD?

Unknown_02: I, uh, I talked to Sam Hyde very heavy, very heavy.

Unknown_00: Who is the other person, um, in your apartment with you? Cause when you picked up, I could hear somebody walking around. Who is that?

0:20:44
Unknown_02: You don't know those people. I have no association with anything else.

Unknown_00: Yeah, I can't tell you those people.

Unknown_02: Those are other people. I can't tell you. Okay.

Unknown_02: Yeah, those are other people. Sorry. Sorry is other people.

0:21:17
Unknown_02: I love you, Josh, by the way.

Unknown_00: Well, how fucking embarrassing to do this. Like you were obviously lucid in the last like two weeks and it's not embarrassing.

Unknown_02: It's not embarrassing for me. It's a I, I, I do agree with being part of M.D.

Unknown_00: That's not what I mean though. I mean you being obviously fucked up. Oh, it's so frustrating because people are going to assume that I just picked up like a crisis actor off the fucking street who Sam Hyde paid to do this on stream. And I have like, I have photocopies of your ID and shit.

0:21:55
Unknown_02: No, but you know where we come from.

Unknown_00: I just, I honestly, I just want to know what you took before you got on. Cause it was like in the last hour that whatever you, you binged on was, was taken because you were able to anything.

Unknown_02: I just, uh, I just, uh, had some, uh, Irish.

0:22:36
Unknown_00: Okay. All right. Well, thank you for talking to me. Bye bye.

Unknown_00: That was Channing Crager, the person who has been posting infographics about Sam Hyde being a pedophile on pull for the last five years. I hope you have found this conversation informative. Have a great night. I'm going to bed. Peace.