0:00:02
Unknown_06:
Oh god If you're wondering i'm listening to his like intro music that's from his stream What is this this is the zoomiest shit
Unknown_06: Yeah, man, like I listen to like classics like from the 2000s, you know, like my chemical romance So you don't like you don't hear stuff like this anymore, bro Copyright take a remix i'm listening to the old school The old school whatever the fuck minecraft mice on venus
0:00:54
Unknown_06:
he has a discord and i tried to join his discord and it requires like associating your discord account with some third-party service and then using that to associate it with like eight other forms of social media to verify that you're not ban evading or some shit like um i don't know about this one
Unknown_06: Uh... Hufflepuff. I'll probably do Hufflepuff just for the memes. Apparently they have the comfiest living space in the game. The best common room, so... I might have to.
Unknown_06: I'm gonna introduce myself to his audience, I suppose.
0:01:50
Unknown_06:
he has a nine inch nails hoodie oh my god he really he was just like me born in the wrong generation actually nine inch nails is like 90s industrial right that's the right i'm in the right time frame to enjoy such things will i be a trans black queen maybe i'll have to see i'm gonna have to see the depths of the stupidity in the the generator the um character creator
Unknown_06: I'm still waiting on him to figure it. I asked the Zoomy man to send me a Google Meet link, and he did. And then he fucked it up somehow. So now I'm waiting on him to send me another one.
Unknown_06: i'm playing the harry potter game comes out february 10th i want to say but because i bought the special hippogriff deluxe edition i get to play it 72 hours before the official release date so i'm gonna play it as soon as i can and i'll do that like three days in a row so um
0:02:58
Unknown_06:
you're interested at all in the game yeah it'll give you like a preview you don't have to spend spend your money on like the the um deluxe version before deciding to buy it or pirate it or whatever the fuck i'm gonna start j i'm gonna dude i'm gonna i'm gonna gamer gate two the fuck out of that game streamer bait yeah yes exactly that's how it works
Unknown_05: I'm bad at Blockland is the thing. I don't think anyone actually plays Blockland anymore.
Unknown_06: Look at the blockland.us. How many people are even playing? It looks like it has not changed in 10 years.
Unknown_06: Last update was two years ago. He made it so that you have to play... You have to have Steam to play Blockland.
0:04:02
Unknown_06:
Let's see. There's about... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 28 servers. 1, 2, 3. 8. 11. 14. 15 15 players on 25 servers and the most is five playing blockland server it appears to just be people building bricks so it's not like an actual it's not like a special server speed cart clubbed blockland server very sad ah well there we go i got a link finally
0:04:51
Unknown_06:
I'm gonna mute this in case there's like a special message to me at the beginning of this conversation.
0:05:51
Unknown_00:
Okay. Yeah, you're good.
Unknown_03: You're good. All right. Listen, the collab of the century, Jerky Tom and Noel. This is what they've been waiting for. I'm sure you're getting thousands of emails in your inbox. Do people even know who I am on your stream? Yeah, yeah. They all know who you are. Well, I've talked about Kiwi Farms in a bunch of my videos, so they definitely know who you are. Okay. Someone, the last person I had on stream was, do you remember Ruben Sim? You talked about him on your show. Yeah.
Unknown_03: Yeah, he was like, he was like, I love no, I love Kiwi Farms. I was like, really? I was like, yeah.
0:06:22
Unknown_06:
He's like the guy, the Jewish guy that had a conversation with Jace from Deagle Nation and he had like a really bad stutter, right?
Unknown_06: No. What? No, that's not Ruben. Did you? No, Ruben Sim is the Roblox guy. Yeah, okay. No, he's in my chat. Sorry, I'm confusing him with someone completely different.
Unknown_03: yeah that's a different guy yeah that's close though i mean they're pretty close i think his name wasn't ruben i have to look this up now i'm curious but yeah yeah no different guy different guy josh but um first of all thanks for coming on stream i uh i know you don't you don't do a lot of a lot of collabs it's not really your thing so appreciate you coming on well i don't get invited because people are afraid i'll get their account permanently suspended within three minutes of talking to them
0:07:11
Unknown_03:
well you know i did think about that and if i thought that would be the case i definitely wouldn't have streamed with you but given that nick ricada is on youtube monetized and whatever else he has the extra protection that you don't have does he
Unknown_06: um geez i think i think that he has like special ends with the company because he has so many subscribers and he's a lawyer and he's like he's like filed complaints to them like formal legal complaints i think i don't know um i'll try to avoid saying the the bad words that you've you've outlined you've outlined me i did 47 essay about what words i can't say it was one one small message we're just gonna avoid tos stuff josh okay we're gonna avoid tos
Unknown_03: um but i am listen i'm not going to be a josh simp i'm not going to be a josh complete lover okay we're going to ask some questions about the forum um and the reason why i want to do that is because like you said i mean no one invites you on but i feel like no one hears you out no one hears your side of the story so i want to i want to do that at the very least i mean i get very uh thorough interview questions from mother jones asking me where my mother lives and what she does for a living yeah well i'm not i figured this would be a little more candid because you know i can actually get in-depth conversations instead of just like you know over email or whatever
0:08:25
Unknown_03:
yeah sure so i uh i added you to the minecraft realm okay first order wait i have to do realms i thought i can't do realms you can do robins if you have java yeah okay how do i do this um um so you're just gonna want to go to minecraft realms on the home page i have to get a trial do i have to buy something No, no, I bought it already. Just go to Minecraft Realms on the bottom, and then on the top, you should have an envelope icon next to the Minecraft logo. You press that. There should be an invite. You just accept it, and then you go back to the home page of Minecraft, and then click Realms again, and it should show up in a list of realms there.
Unknown_06: it does not it does not um maybe just go back to the home page one more time and see did you accept the invite yeah i did i did click it correctly right i didn't like click the wrong button you probably clicked it correctly i'd say just go back to the home page and uh i just see the thing realms is a safe simple way to enjoy an online minecraft experience
0:09:23
Unknown_03:
Maybe just restart minecraft real quick. Maybe you don't you don't have like you don't host that you don't know You don't know how to host the server.
Unknown_06: Do you like a minecraft?
Unknown_03: I had a server but it's also populated by my fans who are gonna come stream snipe us and kill us So that's why the problem with the server.
Unknown_06: Okay one second. I'll try to I Promise you the realm is better Josh.
Unknown_03: Okay, it'll be much more intimate. We'll feel very close. We'll feel very close.
Unknown_06: Okay, so
Unknown_06: Sorry, the actual experience of installing Minecraft is now a fucking nightmare. And it really unironically depresses me that kids your age will never be able to experience the joy of installing a computer program and actually being able to use it. without having to like sell your soul directly to Microsoft and install all this other bullshit and port your account to a Minecraft Live account and have like a Windows Genuine and all this other bullshit. This literally did not, like they slowly started adding all this bullshit that ruined computer games for absolutely everyone just like a couple years ago. like starting in 2012 and they just kept adding more and more fucking garbage to it because microtransactions are so profitable every single player game in existence has had to find a way to implement to you know add them to them um like like with fallout for instance i tried to make fallout 76 because uh like their games are like the longest running single player games that still get played by thousands of people they're like oh we built all these great games that people love and play for a decade but we can't bilk them for cash for millions of dollars like gta 5 did we have to figure out a way around this and now everything sucks because they're all trying to do that
0:10:49
Unknown_03:
didn't like nobody play that game though Fallout 76 uh yeah well I mean all these like no everyone hates the Minecraft everyone hates the fact that now you're like stopped by Microsoft as you play like the chats and in your single player like private games are like directly fed to Microsoft AI so they can like machine learn what you say and then check you for the bad words and stuff
Unknown_06: Everyone hates that, but it's all done in the process of trying to make the next most profitable media franchise, which was GTA 5. GTA 5 is the most single profitable piece of media ever created because of microtransactions.
0:11:33
Unknown_03:
Really? I thought it was, like, Pokemon or something.
Unknown_06: Nope.
Unknown_06: Well, Pokemon's many, many games over decades. That's a lot. Hello Kitty, I think, is, like, number two. But as far as, like, a single video game or a single movie or a single whatever the fuck ever put out, it is... It is, um... You have a Doge skin? Is that what this is? No, it's Sloppermon. It's my avatar.
Unknown_03: Oh, it's your dog? I think so.
Unknown_06: I might have just downloaded a random dog, but I think this was handmade for me.
Unknown_03: Alrighty, well, listen. Welcome to my Zoomer Minecraft world. Zoomers only, but we're accepting you, honorary millennial, in just for this once, just to come in. This is the house that was being... I saw the foundation of this house being laid down as Flamenco was screaming. Oh, no, this is a different house. This is a different house, thankfully. That was on the server, actually. Yeah, I saw you watch the Flam thing. I did. You had some advice for Turkey Tom, you said. Yeah. Internet watch is bad.
0:12:09
Unknown_06:
The thing is, you're going to talk to Keffels tomorrow, and here's the thing, right?
0:12:45
Unknown_06:
Here's the thing about that.
Unknown_03: I don't know if she's gonna be willing to have a conversation with me after this This is the greatest way to cop out of that bullshit ever is you just invite me on and then then they're gonna cry I don't know what what pronouns I'm allowed to use like getting you permanently executed by the Mafia.
Unknown_06: So but I um say she come on no you you have to i would rather be fucking shot dead than say today is what we're going with okay um so yeah if you want to cop out of that conversation then you can just invite me the thing is i don't want to cop out of it because i actually like
0:13:19
Unknown_03:
I want to like with flamenco right flamenco is like this like delusional person who can't accept reality with keffels the proposition she had to come on stream was that she did she disagrees with my characterization and birdie the ed editor who is on his characterization he starts he's just he's this dude who just like he edits for ed I did I did a video I had him on stream he explained the keffels lore to me and I tried to give kind of a brief synopsis for the normies or whatever So I did that, and then I posted it as a video, and it got like 50,000 views. And then I guess she watched it, because she messaged Nick DiOrio. She was like, hey, I want to talk to Turkey Tom. Can you set up this conversation?
Unknown_03: And he was like, yeah, what about? And she was like, well, I disagree with the characterization that...
Unknown_03: I disagree with the characterization that I pick all my battles. So, you know, basically in the stream, Birdie was asserting that she picks fights with people and then... When you say she, do you mean she or do you mean they?
0:14:15
Unknown_06:
Apples. Apples.
Unknown_03: I mean apples. i mean listen i respect pronouns josh i'm not like cringe i'm sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry listen kids listen to this and literally i'm so sorry for what society has done to you i'm so i my i i wish i could have done more i wish i had known and been in the power position of power to help you but you're not it said you were uh actually i don't even know what you were doing like where were you 15 years ago josh what were you doing i was on block then terrorizing children
Unknown_03: oh yeah blockland what do you what is blockland what is this lore blockland was a game before minecraft before roblox um that was like a literally like a lego brick building game where you had pieces like in tetris shapes that were specific and it was just supposed to be like a lego game for other goons because the bad spot was a goon
0:15:00
Unknown_06:
and um the actual people who started playing it were were literal children so he didn't like that um because he hates children so you have this this terrible goon misanthrope somehow in charge of like a website full of children and um the result of that was one of the most maladjusted internet forums ever created for a vulnerable population of literal kids and um i am the byproduct of this
Unknown_03: Gotcha. So it all goes back to Blockland. For some people, it goes back to GamerGate. With you, it goes back to Blockland.
Unknown_06: Everything that I do, I do in the name of Eric Badspot Hartman. Peace be upon him.
Unknown_03: Gotcha. Okay, cool. Well, I didn't know your origins as a Blockland gamer. All right. Well, I think one of the first things I wanted to ask about, because obviously this is something that I want to talk about with Kefals as well. I assume this will be...
Unknown_03: point of the conversation if she still agrees to come on is so there's a bunch of stuff the couple just said which I would argue is like dishonest is you know flat out lies about destiny about the forum about stuff like that but
0:16:09
Unknown_03:
At the end of the day if we go all the way back to the beginning the inception of where the drama started You could argue that the drama started because the forum dug through her shit doxxed her. No, it started with destiny Kethel's really wanted destiny to be a broke starving homeless Unemployable completely distance from society shoot himself in the head because he's so depressed. I know I know I know I know that's true That's not what I'm that's not what I'm saying Well, what I'm saying is the reason why she went up to Kiwi Farms because they dug through all her shit, right and No, I would disagree with that too what happened is that When I came to the defense, I featured this on my podcast I just mentioned in brief because this was like a you know byline on the the keffels on the destiny thread That this trans twitch streamer was taking shots at destiny And of course, it's very funny because destiny lives his life on his knees every single thing he says and does is in service of the status quo of what people are allowed to say and
0:17:06
Unknown_06:
And he holds the line completely. I think the only thing that he said is that trans trans girls have an unfair advantage in women's sports. That's all he said.
Unknown_03: I think that's not just also how he feels like you think he's this honest thing.
Unknown_06: I don't care. I don't care what he believes. I just know that everything that I've ever seen of him, he lives his life on bended knee. What he believes is between him and his maker, but just... In a way, you kind of have to live your life on a bended knee.
Unknown_03: I mean, I'm someone who...
Unknown_06: it's the reason the reason why everyone has to abide by these rules is because we let people like keffels dictate what the rules are going to be instead of just telling these freaks to go kill themselves i guess i can't say that uh to go minecraft okay but okay in minecraft and robots and yeah to jump off into the lava and then other ones is what i meant but the thing about the thing about that is uh
0:18:01
Unknown_03:
The thing about that is, like, it's not collectively everyone who agrees with Kaplos who agrees with, let's say, the kids.
Unknown_06: No, but everybody lives in fear of having their lives ruined by these people.
Unknown_03: Well, you have to because you get your life ruined. Yeah, but the thing is that if people just stood up and said, no, we're not going to do what you say, go away, you freak, it would be solved instantly. For there to be that huge of a consensus, I mean, that's a huge ask, you know what I mean?
Unknown_06: it's not um because there were people before you you have to remember that there are thousands of years of history in mankind and every time there has been this injustice an oppressor it has taken people literally laying down their lives to get rid of this oppression and right now we live in an unjust society we live with an oppressor we live with an imbalance of power that is causing a deterioration of our quality of life and our ability to live a fulfilling and self-determined life um we this the correction of this is going to be extremely violent because we have allowed it to progress to such an unfixable situation where if anybody says anything about this they're banned from youtube they're banned from payment processors they're not allowed to work they're not allowed to have a career they're not allowed to live in peace so this is what i'm saying i'm saying like like can you blame anyone like like can you blame someone like me let's say right i would i'm someone who a lot of people will accuse of let's say being all right or far right
0:18:49
Unknown_03:
I'm not, but I do like to make jokes, and some of those jokes probably fall in line with things that those people say. Subtitles by the Amara.org community
0:35:06
Unknown_02:
Thanks for watching!
0:52:10
Unknown_02:
Thank you. Thank you for watching. Thank you. Hello, everyone.
1:26:19
Unknown_02:
Thank you. Thank you very much.
1:39:00
Unknown_02:
Bye-bye. Oh, my God! Thank you. Hello, Peppa.
2:00:43
Unknown_02:
I don't know.
2:05:19
Unknown_02:
Bye-bye.
2:12:59
Unknown_02:
Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye. Thanks for watching! Thank you. Thank you.
2:47:32
Unknown_03:
And that's it. And then he died. He killed himself.
Unknown_03: Yeah. But, but his Nissan GTR leased it or whatever, and then ended his own life. Um, he had a few short follow-up questions. If you don't mind about low tax, I'll let you, I'll let you get off.
Unknown_01: Okay.
Unknown_03: Um, all right. Uh, at one point, rich was genuinely beloved by a lot of the internet. Did your perspective on rich change over the years, especially after getting the perspective of hosting a forum yourself?
Unknown_06: um so the issue is i don't know too much about him there were some things early on in the forum that i tried to copy from something awful i um for instance i had like a fake law uh law personality called lauren o'landry that i used for like maybe one or two years and of course the acronym for lauren o'landry is lol
2:48:15
Unknown_06:
uh he had like a similar fake lawyer that ansel answered like shitty legal complaints in snarky ways and i think that low tax was a genuinely talented humorist his writing was funny uh sometimes and i liked his post on the forum he often made me laugh um so respect to the guy for like doing his business and getting set up and stuff but that's about all i can say he was definitely destroyed by his pill addiction um he was definitely so numb to the the concept of feeling pain that any discomfort was you know unacceptable to him
Unknown_03: All right, just a few more questions. What place do you think Rich has in online history in both the most charitable sense of how he shaped it as well as like the negative kind of personal flaws? I guess you kind of answered that already with how you felt. But I mean, do you still like pay a lot of respect to him in a way for like something awful? And it paved the way a little bit, you would say probably for Kiwi, even if it's not like the inception, right?
2:49:02
Unknown_06:
hard to say because again i wasn't around at its prime time i was always on 4chan i didn't have uh money for for an account so i never joined something awful um but even something awful i think inspired uh inspired 4chan in some ways i mean like for sure i i respect him for
2:49:38
Unknown_06:
for for what he did but the fact is that he gave up without a fight and his memory is now that he left his he left multiple children without even a suicide note he didn't even leave a suicide note explaining that why he was going to kill himself he pussied out to the highest degree possible and i have no respect for him for that i guess the last question would be where is schmorky where is schmorky yeah he changed his name to to uh stone toss he's doing quite well At last I heard his NFT sale went really well.
Unknown_03: Fuck off.
Unknown_03: You do actually not know. This is just now. No one knows.
Unknown_06: No, nobody knows. He got out as a pedophile and he hid. And I think that people might have found some accounts that might have been him. But the stone toss one is the funniest narrative. So that's the one that I'll stick to.
Unknown_03: Yeah, it is funny.
Unknown_03: Yeah, definitely the same guy. No doubt. All right. Well, appreciate you coming on stream, buddy. Is there anything you want to I guess I'll do the due diligence. I think we're going to plug before we cut it off.
2:50:36
Unknown_06:
um no not really i do a pod your fans probably won't like it it's called mad at the internet m-a-t-i dot live matthew.net.com um yeah like i don't want to like show my website i'm going to say come visit the kiwi farms you'll probably not like it if you're you know if pronouns are important to you and you think that it's a human right to be called the pronoun that that you expect
Unknown_06: um my main thing to especially young people is don't give in to like sorrow i think so many people are just willing to like excuse themselves from responsibility by saying there's no point even trying to do anything about it there's not as long as you breathe there there are things you can do and uh they want you they want you hopeless and if if if it was already hopeless we would not even even these little conversations wouldn't be possible
2:51:27
Unknown_03:
Okay, gotcha. All right, well, appreciate you coming on. I'll let you go, but yeah, thank you for coming on. I think it was a good stream. People liked it. As I said, it was, I think, my most viewed stream ever that I can remember 1,200 people. So, yeah, I appreciate everyone who came out. I'll hang up on you, and I'm going to read my own Super Chats. But, yeah, take care, buddy. See ya.
Unknown_06: Take it easy.
Unknown_06: Okay. Sorry, I'll check my Super Barriers, and then I'm tired, so I'm going to play, like, a game of Dota, maybe.
Unknown_06: okay for the people six people who donated hewlett fans 96 says do you think you could ever stream a few simpsons episodes at this point um i am i might do um uh gumroad content i think i said i was going to look at like the one of the most recent simpsons and then watch one that people tell me to watch i don't know if i would ever stream it though i might just do like a running commentary or clip something together uh dandy for 777 says hey george george stirr I ordered three packs of patches less than an hour after they went on sale. I know you're not shipping them, but do you think I'll get them by the end of the month? I'm moving on the 29th. Yes. The patches are in inventory, and they should be going out on Monday for the next 500 people. Ah, fuck, I should have, shouldn't I? I'll tell him, actually. Uh...
2:52:23
Unknown_04:
Which one should I shill? By the way, tell your fans to get on Fediverse, like post.com or chudbuds. It's Twitter, but not gay.
2:52:57
Unknown_04:
KiwiFriends.cc was a thing, but now it's not because of the platforming, but it might come back soon.
Unknown_06: Okay, I sent the message. Hey, you don't know, man. Women like a plant. They respect plant chads.
2:53:31
Unknown_06:
None of us for 10 says KF threads contains references reference facts about their subjects, but some people just post pure baseless lies I assume you dislike live hosts, but I've never seen them banned or deleted even when proven I frequently ban people who post outright bullshit No, I do not I do not want people to just make shit up on the on the forum frog god for five says if you kill a frog in this game you're going to be sent to an unhappy frog zone also jail i'm also always watching you close sky since that machine and pigs gameplay mr prune always watching i didn't even see a frog i didn't see any coal either i didn't see a lot of stuff that i needed unfortunately to get my build anywhere near completion that's how it is
Unknown_06: All right. Well, thanks for watching, I suppose. I hope you have enjoyed my little chat. Take it easy. Bye-bye.