WingsofRedemption vs. Sons of Kojima 2.0 - Mad at the Internet 2019-01-02

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Unknown_14: Enjoy the stream.

Unknown_04: You guys just don't understand, like, how often people fuck with me.

Unknown_11: It's not like when I end the stream people stop fucking with me.

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Unknown_11: Money slowly seeping out of it and all I get is grief. Big up Liquid Richard. Big up Liquid Richard. My name is Richard. I hate streaming. The fact is, I'm not a good streamer. I do this to try to melt the last little bit of my viewership. I just can't focus to it.

Unknown_08: I just can't focus to it. I'm getting moldy. I'm getting moldy. I just can't focus to it. I just can't focus to it. If you're new here, make sure to subscribe, like, comment, and share.

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Unknown_09: How is that even fuckin' fair?

Unknown_07: Fuck hair, listen! Fuck hair, listen! How is that even fuckin' fair? Fuck hair, listen!

Unknown_08: Fuck hair, listen! I'm just scared, fuckers. I'm just scared, fuckers. I got my spine gettin' lonely. I got my spine gettin' lonely. I'm just scared, fuckers. I'm just scared, fuckers. I got my spine gettin' lonely. I got my spine gettin' lonely. I'm just scared.

Unknown_08: Either subscribe, donate, or get the fuck out.

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Unknown_14: Hello! How is everybody doing? I am doing fantastic. Thank you for joining me.

Unknown_14: To laugh at retards on the internet once again on a Wednesday. A Wednesday at noon. Is it afternoon? Is it technically afternoon if it's like 1201? I think it is. I think 1201 constitutes afternoon. So we're gonna call it afternoon. For here it's fucking evening. It's like 7.

Unknown_14: But whatever.

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Unknown_14: Alright, we have something different. I want to state that I had no intention of doing Wings of Redemption. And the reason why is that Jim, Mr. Mediker, did a video on Wings of Redemption and it's probably one of my favorites that he's ever done. It's very comprehensive, it's pretty funny, it has a moral, it's just a good video. So how do you top that? Well, you probably don't. I'm going to cover what people who already know Wings already know. This isn't going to be any more of an introduction than Medicare's. But, I have decided to talk about Wings, not because of Wings himself, But because of the trolls around him, and I'm gonna get into that, I'm gonna talk about that when the time comes, but for now we're just gonna go ahead and look at some of what makes Wings of Redemption famous. Why do people talk about him now?

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Unknown_14: And it starts with Call of Duty Modern Warfare. Wings of Redemption was one of the hottest streamers years ago, like 2010, probably earlier than 2010, I don't know for sure. But he was a very big channel and he made lots and lots of money and he was reckless with his money. And now, he did enough with his cash to stabilize his life, but he earns comparatively very little. And he's very bitter about how his celebrity status is taking a downturn.

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Unknown_14: Now, Jim's video came after a particular video.

Unknown_14: got a lot of traction. There is one video, one video out there about seven minutes long that we're gonna watch in its entirety.

Unknown_14: That is presumably a video that a lot of people have already seen and is probably the most famous video of all time and of Wings of Strolling Circles. And kind of highlights what kicked off everything that happened to Wings after. The entire year of 2018 for Wings of Redemption, Jordy Jordan was complete fucking misery.

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Unknown_14: And it started with this. Let me just pull it up.

Unknown_04: So... Transform.

0:05:45
Unknown_04: It just occurred to me that there is no, there is no, I tried to be fancy.

Unknown_14: I tried to be fancy and have a bunch of different things set up and I fucked it. Okay, here we go. Now you can hear audio.

Unknown_04: Or maybe not.

Unknown_04: Fuck it.

Unknown_04: Here.

Unknown_14: Cause it's MLC, you can't fucking hear it from MLC. What a pain in the ass. Is that it?

Unknown_04: Yep. A million views. Here we go.

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Unknown_11: I'm going back online. And I'm stabbing people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I fixed it.

Unknown_14: I fixed it.

Unknown_11: Like, like... Dude knew I was here.

Unknown_14: This is one of the best trolling videos I've ever seen. Just a heads up.

Unknown_14: It's a great throw by the way.

Unknown_09: Come the fuck on, man!

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Unknown_11: Fucking A, dude. They keep going back to my fucking spot. They're just sitting on my spot. Sitting in my spot.

Unknown_14: It's his. There's like three of them. Nobody else can go by that fucking cargo crate.

Unknown_11: You got three dudes on your team right there in a clan. Quit sniping, get some skill.

Unknown_11: Quit sniping, get some skill.

Unknown_11: Come the fuck on, man. Real talk.

Unknown_11: Dude, shut the fuck up, dude. You're a little kid.

0:07:39
Unknown_11: Ah, dammit, dude.

Unknown_01: This is why the Axis lost the war. Look at this. This is not proper war conduct.

0:08:21
Unknown_14: He looks- He looks happy, doesn't he?

Unknown_14: This is how you want to feel when you play a video game.

Unknown_11: Where'd he fucking leave, dude?

Unknown_14: And that guy Webby is still a part of Trolling Eclipse to this day.

0:09:11
Unknown_11: Alright guys, if they join session again, I'm just gonna have to fucking stop playing.

Unknown_11: Until they leave.

Unknown_11: All they're doing is hurting my livelihood.

Unknown_11: If somebody could please, like, get me their information. Like, maybe, like, um, I forgot what that shit's called.

Unknown_14: What? Chat? Chat? What is that called? What's that shit called when you get somebody's information? There's a name for it. It's at the tip of my fucking tongue. I just can't think of it, though.

Unknown_14: But.

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Unknown_11: like if somebody could give me like their information like their name their address the number how to get in contact with these guys i would really like to know because like i'm seriously considering um suing them because at this point they're going to follow me around when i stream and they're affecting my business at this point

Unknown_11: Honestly, they're affecting my They're affecting my they're affecting my ability to make money it appear offline. Does it work? I'm fucking offline No, they're joining through recent play.

Unknown_14: Look here Say it Look here look listen Appearing offline does not fucking stop it.

Unknown_11: So stop giving fucking advice. You know nothing about

Unknown_14: He has not lived that down in over a year to this fucking day. To this fucking day! Anytime he talks to anybody in fucking video games and fucking his chat and discord it is look here, look, fucking listen. Appearing offline does not fucking stop it.

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Unknown_11: I'm banning anybody trying to give me advice.

Unknown_11: Real talk. I'm not should be doing this. I gotta play. I don't give a fuck what's going on. Honestly, I don't care.

Unknown_11: I hate everything to do with life. He's following me right now shooting at me.

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Unknown_14: I'm getting killed in a video game. I hate everything about life.

Unknown_14: It could be worse. Conceivably, it could be worse than this.

Unknown_14: That's just your shit reaction time. They didn't even fucking stream snipe him.

Unknown_11: I just wanted to have a good fucking stream, dude. That's all I wanted to do.

Unknown_12: The guy shooting him killed me. Look at that. Look at the dedication in that guy's eyes.

0:11:45
Unknown_11: Can you, can you, can you please stop, dude? Stage four.

Unknown_12: Bargaining.

Unknown_12: He's ruthless. He can't be negotiated with.

Unknown_11: Real talk, why?

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Unknown_14: Whenever I see this, it reminds me of the Blair Witch, where the guy has to sit in the corner.

Unknown_14: Also, that poster is covering holes in the wall.

Unknown_14: Here it comes.

Unknown_14: This video needs to be edited with a little Call of Duty hitmarker on the wall when he hits it.

0:13:21
Unknown_14: I think he's like 500 pounds in this video.

Unknown_14: I tried to find a skinny one.

Unknown_12: I couldn't. I tried. I tried my best. He's lost weight now. It doesn't count. It doesn't count. All right, here it comes.

Unknown_11: All right, guys. I give up.

Unknown_11: I don't know what I'll stream again.

Unknown_11: I really need to make this fucking money. I really wanted to get this fucking surgery, man. I've wanted it so fucking bad.

Unknown_09: Oh, I hate it. I just can't do it. I can't take this shit no more, man. All I wanted to do was, like, I was fucking lonely. I wanted to just fucking stream and have a good time, maybe have a good game.

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Unknown_08: My life. I'm sorry.

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Unknown_09: I'm so sorry.

Unknown_14: Okay, I've mentioned this before and people say it's psychotic when I say this, but I'm just gonna say it. There comes a point with pity. When somebody acts really pitiful, it becomes so pitiful that you stop feeling sorry and you start feeling anger. Like when he does that fucking puppy whimper shit,

Unknown_14: It makes my blood boil. It makes me fucking hate him. And it makes me want to see him harmed. Maybe that's crazy. Maybe that's some psychotic shit. But, it's just how I feel. That fucking dog whimper sound is so fucking pathetic. It makes me angry. Alright, let's listen to it again.

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Unknown_14: I'm in the mood for anger. I give up.

Unknown_11: I don't know when I'll stream again.

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Unknown_11: I really need to make this fucking money. I really wanted to get this fucking surgery, man. I've wanted it so fucking bad. I just can't do it.

Unknown_09: I can't take this shit no more, man. All I wanted to do was, like, I was fucking lonely. I wanted to just fucking stream and have a good time, maybe have a good game.

Unknown_14: If I ever stream on Twitch, I'm gonna make that whimper my donation sound. Like, whenever somebody subscribes, it's just gonna be like...

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Unknown_12: He needs money for his vagina? That's the wrong... That's the wrong surgery, brother. He's getting a, um... He got a... What the fuck is the... A gastronomical sleeve.

Unknown_14: A vertical sleeve, I think it's called. He didn't get a... He didn't get a vaginaectomy or whatever the fuck.

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Unknown_14: Somebody said it's because, uh, he's crying like a toddler not getting something he wanted as opposed to actually being sad? I suppose. I suppose that's a fair take.

Unknown_14: Oh, jeez. Alright. That is, that is Sean Ranklin's very famous get stream sniped and loses it. Over a million views. The most popular Wings of Redemption video, I think. I don't know, like, even Mediocre's video doesn't have a million views. It's like 800,000 when I looked at it today.

Unknown_14: Not that I was bumming notes or anything, I was just refreshing my memory.

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Unknown_14: But you can see why it's so popular. It's seven and a half minutes of pure fucking comedy, is what it is.

Unknown_14: But there's more.

Unknown_14: Where's my notes? Notes! Get the fuck over here.

Unknown_14: This one's, this is, I got so much shit scribbled all over the place. It's a very unconventional set of notes for this stream.

Unknown_14: Sean Ranklin video.

Unknown_14: I'll save that one. Let's watch another video.

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Unknown_14: This is, okay, this is, I should give some background to this before we watch it. I mentioned that he was successful. That video that we watched, the Sean Ranklin video, is at the tail end of 2017. That is November, I'm pretty sure. And it's at the tail end of his career, basically. This one is from 2011. So this is at the peak. This is the start of the downfall. This is the beginning of the end, as they like to say. and basically using his clout, Wings of Redemption started up a podcast with a guy named Woody, and I think somebody else, and it was called Painkiller Already. And Painkiller Already I think was just like a video game podcast at first, now it's just kinda, I think it's kinda nebulous and they talk about whatever they want.

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Unknown_14: But Wings of Redemption started it with Woody and a third party, I'm pretty sure, sorry that I don't know too much about Painkiller Already. And there was a beef, there was a little bit of a gamer grudge between Wings of Redemption, who is very good at Call of Duty, don't get me wrong, he is very good at the game. You wouldn't think that based on how much he cries while playing, but he is actually pretty talented at video games.

Unknown_14: Because I've seen him play like Rainbow Six Siege,

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Unknown_14: And despite using a controller on PC, he does better than I do. So he knows his shit.

Unknown_14: And when he was a popular YouTuber, he started up this podcast with Woody, and they had this little match with this guy called Syndicate, because Wings was, despite being a good player, looked down upon anybody who played like zombies. And I'm pretty sure that Syndicate was a zombie player.

Unknown_14: the top zombie player in the entire world and They they had some kind of argument and they said okay fine one-on-one me in bog, which is this map? with Like what do you I mean he put out all the rules wings did he put out the rules for the batch? he put out the the map the weapon they were going to use and How many lives it was basically this is his challenge so this is exactly how he wanted the game set up at least how he told Woody and And we're just gonna watch. We're gonna watch how this turns out.

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Unknown_11: Why don't you go and make a comment that there's not been a shot fired almost two minutes because Syndicate is laying on his belly somewhere.

Unknown_20: No he's not.

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Unknown_14: The second voice you hear is Woody by the way.

Unknown_20: Headshot!

Unknown_14: Sorry, there's nothing I can do about the Xbox notifications.

0:21:20
Unknown_20: I want to shoutcast this, but I'd be shoutcasting everybody's positions. Yeah.

Unknown_11: And you'd be doing it in my ear. Yeah, I just realized that.

Unknown_12: I was, I was only getting crunk, but.

Unknown_14: So right now it's ten and six. And just want to cut the radio on. And wings.

Unknown_14: Wings needs to take some risks to catch that gap up.

Unknown_20: Oh, I see him. I see him.

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Unknown_20: He's not hiding. He's looking for you.

Unknown_11: I'm standing on the fucking open. He can't see this because he's too busy laying on his belly half the time.

Unknown_20: We can all see what he's doing. He's hunting for you.

Unknown_11: Yeah, he's not doing a good job.

Unknown_14: Wings is complaining that he's sitting in one place camping basically and you can clearly see because he's spectating that what he's spectating that that's not what's happening he's he's on the prowl he's using cover and stuff but he's he's more or less got a position set up and he's roving around trying to spot spotting Wings

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Unknown_14: So again, you hear that, the weapon that Wings picked for this match was the M16, which is a one-hit kill because of how close they are together.

Unknown_14: And he's now complaining that because Syndicate is more or less in one position, that it's not fair to him, even though he set the rules up for the entire match. And I don't know why it froze up.

Unknown_14: Okay, so now Syndicate, I think it's 11 and seven right now.

Unknown_14: So again, he has to close that gap, he has to take some risks, but Syndicate's kind of hanging back there. And he should know where it's at because Syndicate, all of his kills against Syndicate and all the deaths from Syndicate have more or less been from this area.

0:23:10
Unknown_05: And that was a great grenade throw by Wings, which is why I say he's not bad at video games.

Unknown_14: You know, that was a great kill on his part.

Unknown_14: He's got Syndicate kind of boxing back there in the corner.

Unknown_14: But he gets him. He gets him even though he's basically pinned back there.

Unknown_14: And you can clearly see he's not camping, he's not on his belly. He's engaging him.

0:23:45
Unknown_20: It's a 13 and 9 I think it's the first I

Unknown_14: I'm not sure how much, uh... Okay, so that's important. That's important. That's important to the story. This isn't like a serious beef. This isn't like two... two gang members out in the fucking streets about to slit each other's throats over some fucking deals, right? It's, uh... It's like... They're just video game players, and they're supposed to be having fun, and they have rival fanbases and shit. This should be something fun.

0:24:18
Unknown_11: You can hear him banging the control in the background by the way.

Unknown_20: Listen. Look here, look, listen. 20 seconds left.

0:25:12
Unknown_20: I broke my controller.

0:25:53
Unknown_12: Ding Okay, so let's recap that before we return to our our pings and

Unknown_14: Wings of Redemption is talking to his buddy, right? The guy he does the podcast with, Woody. They're having the fight. Supposed to be a fun little beef match because Wings is this really great player at Call of Duty. And Syndicate is this guy that talks smack and they have their quarrels and shit, right? But he's a zombie player. How does the greatest modern warfare streamer lose to the greatest zombie player? That's just silly, especially on his own terms. So to Wings, this is some hyper-competitive, really serious match, and he can't lose it no matter what. And at the end, Woody's just like, you know, he lost, it happens.

0:26:33
Unknown_14: Don't gotta be mad about it, and Wings is calling him a faggot, telling him to shut the fuck up, saying that he's not gonna be on Painkiller already or anything.

Unknown_14: There's a couple more minutes left, let's see how this, does Woody successfully disarm the angry Wings?

Unknown_14: Let's find out.

0:27:06
Unknown_03: Fuck! Why the fuck you stream that shit?

Unknown_14: Hold up, I laughed over that, let's take a step back.

Unknown_11: Fuck! Why the fuck you stream that shit?

Unknown_14: Fuck, why the fuck you stream that shit?

Unknown_20: It was your idea. No, I didn't say stream it. It was your idea. I thought it was your idea.

0:27:37
Unknown_01: I'll play.

Unknown_01: Right here, I'll take you.

Unknown_14: Okay, Wings of Redemption.

Unknown_14: Mad. His idea didn't go out as planned. But now his friends are like, okay, Wings is really pissed off. Let's play a couple fun matches and we'll settle this and we'll be friendly. We'll get along.

Unknown_12: You ready?

Unknown_12: Hang on. Yeah. I'm not going to sound horror you. I'm going to have my regular PC.

Unknown_20: I actually don't have any sound at all. All right.

Unknown_12: I'm ready to download.

Unknown_20: All right. So Syndicate, leave us alone. I'm going to go up against Redneck.

0:28:08
Unknown_10: Please go.

Unknown_10: Please go. Oh. We're using the same stuff?

Unknown_12: Yeah. Please cancel the stream.

Unknown_11: It's just me playing.

Unknown_11: I don't give a fuck. Please cancel the stream. I do not want to hear these fuckers talk. Shut. It. Down.

0:28:55
Unknown_20: You know what? Alright, I'm gonna cancel the stream. I'm gonna cancel the stream. Wings asked for it, and, uh... Sorry about that. Have a good night, everybody. I hope you enjoyed the show. And, uh, have a nice day.

Unknown_20: Peace!

Unknown_14: I want to appreciate all the people tolerating the fucking ping noises.

Unknown_20: Not yet.

Unknown_14: Alright, that did not go too well. For a friendly little video game competition, I think it's safe to say that that was a bit of a catastrophic fucking failure and a total embarrassment. Even if he had just lost, it wouldn't have been as bad as his reaction to losing. The childish fucking reaction to losing what was supposed to be a fun video.

0:29:28
Unknown_14: All right, that is only the beginning of the end with him. So at this point, I'm not sure the timeline entirely, but let me give you a rundown of how else Wings is behaving.

Unknown_14: He is...

0:30:07
Unknown_14: He's not only, he's not only acting like this, but in the streams he is routinely cruel and toxic. Toxic to his teammates. He's toxic to his fans. One of the biggest memes in all the people who troll wings is his tendency to verbally command mods to ban people. Imagine if I, streaming, I said, all right, look here, look, listen, desire lines. Can you ban a comma?

Unknown_14: No, of course, it's always names like fat tits of lordation, I think is my favorite name. So he's like, okay mods, can you can you ban fat tits of lardation? He ain't he ain't nothing but a troll. He ain't nothing but a troll Can you ban wings of racism? He ain't nothing but a troll and so people obviously register these fucking names that are intentionally inflammatory to post in his chat and get people get him to verbally command mods to ban him and

0:30:47
Unknown_14: And that's a lot of what keeps people coming back. But he's so touchy about people in his chat. He'll frequently ban anybody for any reason. I wish I had clipped the video where he's saying, like, mods, can you ban anybody laughing? Ban anybody laughing. Like, he gets trolled in the video game and dies a couple times. Like, mods, ban anybody typing LOL.

0:31:25
Unknown_14: ban anybody's- he specifically- he literally says in one of these videos he literally says mods ban anybody who spams anything I don't care if they say the word the twice just ban them so he- on his- on his fucking uh- on his ban list is words like lol and richard and really fucking inane stupid bullshit like that because he can't stand people laughing at him

0:32:01
Unknown_14: And that's what makes him so funny to troll. And he routinely, like, every stream has a thing where he... where he... bitches and moans at his own viewership. And that's what makes it so fun to hate on him. And why he has a... a hate fanbase that rivals...

Unknown_14: if not surpasses at this point Darkseid Phil.

Unknown_14: And I'm gonna make a lot of comparisons to Darkseid Phil, so get ready for that. I'll explain what the situation is with DSP and how that's similar and different with these guys.

0:32:35
Unknown_14: So one other thing before I show this clip and then I'll continue explaining a little bit about Wings and his lore.

Unknown_14: I'm just going to throw this out here. He at one point admits because he's 500 pounds he got constipated once and his grandma had to stick her fingers up his asshole to fish the poo out of him because he could not physically poo.

Unknown_14: Um, he publicly admitted this information, I did not hack this off his phone. He stated for everybody to see that Grandma had to go fishing for poo in his butthole because he could not take a shit.

Unknown_14: I'm just going to- You can't press X, motherfucker, it's already in your brain.

0:33:17
Unknown_12: You're already dead.

Unknown_12: And he liked it is that part of the story That's funny that's very normal, okay James Alright, let's watch this clip.

Unknown_14: This is a fun clip. I like having fun on the internet, so we'll watch this clip That's the lean video that's the Sunday video I

0:33:51
Unknown_14: Yeah, here we go. This is an hour long. I'll link to it in the YouTube description when I upload this. But we're only going to listen to the first couple minutes.

Unknown_11: Here we go. Killer, killer, killer.

Unknown_11: There he is.

Unknown_11: Let me increase the volume. What's up? You use the same picture for everything?

Unknown_18: Yeah, can you cut the music?

Unknown_11: Yeah, the music's cut, man. The music's cut.

Unknown_14: And yes, this is Keemstar.

Unknown_18: First off,

Unknown_18: Get off saying what you said about me in that stream. What about it?

0:34:23
Unknown_18: I should die? That I'm the most evil person you know? No, what I said was that if somebody on this earth that deserves to die, it would be you.

Unknown_11: That's what I said. That's a pretty fucked up thing to say.

Unknown_11: You've said some pretty fucked up things too.

Unknown_18: Explain why I deserve to die.

Unknown_11: Um, from my experience, granted I have very little social experience, other than like YouTube and being a YouTube commentator for like 10 years at this point, um, you are the one person that I've seen do the most heinous things online, period. Like, like, um, when we were doing that, when we were doing that game together and you tried to like get us to like force money ahead when like nobody was like putting money in.

0:35:07
Unknown_11: Um, you know, the whole billionaires bash thing, how that was a ruse you had, like when you tried, when you came on PK for the game, for the game thing, I don't even remember that.

Unknown_18: That was so long ago.

Unknown_11: It was a long time ago.

Unknown_18: What I'm saying that I asked you to invest in a game that you would profit in.

Unknown_11: No, what, what me, what he brought me in. and you wanted me and Woody to donate three grand each to you as to make sure we were serious investors, but you were already getting the lion's share of the profit there. Me and Woody were like 15% partners, I think was the correct thing there.

0:35:49
Unknown_11: But like, but like the game was very sketchy to begin with. Like I don't even know why I was brought into it.

Unknown_18: that was

Unknown_04: Remember anything about this, but this is just that this is just this is a speed bump, right?

0:36:25
Unknown_11: Like that's not the main concern, right? There's there's other bullet points here.

Unknown_11: But well, let's just let's just ignore this, you know, odd claim that you're making with no proof to back it up.

Unknown_11: I have Woody there. Woody, would you back me up on this proof?

Unknown_18: Okay, so I was gonna do a game with you. I told you that I wanted money from you to know that you're serious that would put be put towards the game. You are obviously you said you were going to get 15% of the game. And that's part of the reasons why I deserve to die.

0:36:58
Unknown_11: No, no, no, that's just like I said, that's the first bullet point you tried you tried to you know Swindle me without money because that game never came to effect how we're gonna get our money back Hold up.

Unknown_18: You didn't you didn't give me any money. We did we didn't because I wasn't going to But but like you're you're holding swindled you weren't swindled and second of all, I just want to let you know I just came out with a game app

Unknown_18: Right. A couple of months.

Unknown_11: This was after Fortress Craft. This is right after Fortress Craft. $200,000.

Unknown_18: I mean, I've made a lot of money on games. Right. You know, but like horrible Keemstar, the genius business guy tried to get wings, some money, tried to give him a business opportunity.

0:37:32
Unknown_11: All right. But somehow that let's go into me trying to scam you.

Unknown_18: All right, let's go.

Unknown_11: What about Total Biscuit? Good.

Unknown_11: What about Total Biscuit?

Unknown_14: This isn't what I thought it was gonna be. I'm gonna find something real quick.

Unknown_18: I'm sorry. I remember a certain video where, which you took down, where you were basically laughing at him because he got cancer and you said, and I quote, you can't wait till he dies so you can make a video and drama alert about him.

0:38:19
Unknown_18: I'm completely out of context.

Unknown_14: Let me, uh, I think this is the part I want to show you. Alright, this is- Seems to be working on a few things.

Unknown_04: Friends. What the fuck is it? Alright, it's- I don't- Oh, it is. 14-0.

Unknown_11: Some kind. Can we stop recording now?

Unknown_20: Yeah, we're done.

Unknown_11: Alright. Well, I got you here, DJ Keemstar. I run some stuff by you. Is your PO box 148 Holony-

Unknown_14: That's correct. The fade-out is people editing the video.

Unknown_11: What is your street address now? York 140809.

0:38:53
Unknown_18: That's incorrect.

Unknown_18: That's incorrect. I don't give my personal where I live at. I don't give that out.

Unknown_11: Has your girlfriend named Melissa?

Unknown_18: Yes, she is. Is her phone number 71663?

Unknown_11: Can I ask you why you're trying to get my personal information?

Unknown_11: I'm just trying to see how much of this is correct, because I gave some of this information to Fisticuffs.

Unknown_18: You gave my personal information to Fisticuffs?

0:39:25
Unknown_11: Yep.

Unknown_18: Okay, so should I find out what trailer park you live in and announce that to the world? I don't live in a trailer park, my man. What was the motivation behind this action?

Unknown_11: Oh this is um, well basically I did some digging and I tried to find everything I could find out about him in case he actually did drop my YouTube channel. I'm just letting him know that, I'm just letting him know it's out there.

Unknown_11: that we won't be surprised.

Unknown_18: Do you know how many people threaten me a day? It's like, I know that you're a bully and that you get off on bullying people, but like I'm one person that is just going to constantly have that middle finger in the air. It's never going to go down. It's always going to be, fuck you. No one is ever going to fucking talk me into submission or anything. So whatever you're trying to do, just stop now. is the middle fingers right here.

0:40:02
Unknown_11: I'm letting you know that I did get away from your first temptation. I'm not scared. I'm not intimidated in any way. I'm not trying to intimidate you. Yes you are.

Unknown_18: Yes you are. Trying to say my girlfriend's name. Trying to say where I live while my PO box is.

Unknown_03: No. I just want you to know it's always up dude.

Unknown_18: The bird is flying right now. Like I'm not backing down. Alright I'm gonna

0:40:36
Unknown_14: That is, without a fucking doubt, Keemstar's finest moment. The only time, one of the few times that I've actually seen him as somebody tolerable.

Unknown_14: His reaction to that shit is just fucking perfect. That's not the fir- The background to that, by the way.

Unknown_14: is the background to this whole debate. And what I did not include, because that full debate includes a lot of other shit, but mostly the issue with Keemstar was that they were both significantly overweight. And he challenged him, I think, to a boxing match or something. They were both going to lose weight together, because Keem was like 250 at the time. And he's like, look, we'll both lose weight, and we'll put money up, and we'll... It was a significant amount of money.

0:41:14
Unknown_14: And Wings completely backed down, and because he looked bad for doing it, he got really pissed off at Keemstar.

Unknown_14: And there's more regarding the weight. The whole weight loss drama is kind of what led to his current position and the strife that led to that outburst in the Sean Ranklin video. So I'm going to get to that.

0:41:49
Unknown_14: But I just wanted to show you how Wings of Redemption lords himself over somebody when he thinks he's got the upper hand.

Unknown_14: Which I don't condone again. There's nothing wrong with doxing, but it's not a weapon If you're trying to lord yourself over someone and by doxing them you're just kind of a faggot Just a heads up If you're gonna dock somebody just do it don't don't try to extort or intimidate because it makes you look gay Let's watch this clip

0:42:29
Unknown_04: You're cancer on this fucking community!

Unknown_14: Cancer, dude! Come on! This is 2011, by the way. So his shit, and that's Woody in the bottom right, and you might recognize a voice. So this is before.

Unknown_11: you get it you even said it yourself that i get maybe a thousand views i'm here for the money i do it for the money you relate how do you give xboxes away to get money and you just keep on doing it and you're just going to keep on doing whatever it is for money and this is i'm i'm passionate about this because if we let this fucking stand we might as well every else fucking bullshit stand and it just it's it's not right it's not

0:43:07
Unknown_14: This is Whiteboy7thist, I think is his name, and he is another Modern Warfare player. Again, this is 2011. This was when Modern Warfare 2 was out, I think, and this was the peak of the Call of Duty community. And you're going to hear a voice.

Unknown_14: Actually, you're looking at two people right now in these screenshots who might be familiar to you.

Unknown_14: It might actually surprise you who they are. But let's just continue.

Unknown_17: This is serious, Wings.

Unknown_11: What's serious is you're calling me a view-whore when I make a fraction of what you make.

0:43:48
Unknown_17: It's not Wings. It's not.

Unknown_14: White Boy, do you think, if this is so serious, do you think there's anything Wings can do to make it right? That voice sounds a little bit familiar, doesn't it?

Unknown_17: I don't know, man. I'm not a fucking PR person for Wings.

Unknown_20: White Boy, do you still have the impression that this whole thing was calculated from the start?

Unknown_18: What was that? What he said, do you think this whole thing was calculated from the start?

0:44:23
Unknown_17: Yeah, for views, for attention.

Unknown_17: And he said it was calculated.

Unknown_11: White boy, you make so much more money than me, it's ridiculous. No, no, no, no, no, no. You calling me a view whore. You give away Xboxes and PlayStation cards, and you calling me the cancer on the community. He's getting up in that mic like he wants to fucking eat it out. Eat my bank account out your mouth, please. I don't need to get your bank account out of your mouth. You're real close to me just telling people what you actually make.

Unknown_17: I know what he means much different from mine

0:45:02
Unknown_18: well wings he's not wings he's not talking about money though he's calling me a view or when he said himself i get like a thousand views but i thought the dumbass do i don't do that shit for views if i did that ship reviews i would do it on my fucking you to channel why don't you take your one-eyed as and learn fucking something quit smoking pot within the book in high school dropout so i think instead of going after the messenger we should talk about the missing you're going to talk ways it is a little bit here ways you'd be

Unknown_17: You called me out on my eye. I remember we had a drama back when you called me out on, I had a lisp because my microphone, I would appreciate this, my microphone wasn't as good. Why are you so materialistic? I'm a fucking person, Wings. but i'm a fucking person to use their trying to destroy my livelihood by some fucking bullshit trying to say i did some of you were issued suicide do you not understand that granted the of the situation but i don't think the suicide reviews you're talking about instinct you're talking to you in a way this is what you are this is what you brought you brought this on yourself because you need more views when it's not all about the parking views it's not take that out your mind if you just don't look at the economy be happier in life. Maybe you will, but you're just so concerned about numbers on a website that it just engulfs you and it makes you depressed. I liked you, Wings. I liked your videos. I was watching you back in World at War. Even though you talk shit about a lot of things that I disagree on, I like you as a person, but I lost all respect for you. When you took it to the next level, where a human life, you fake suicide for attention. That's what a 13-year-old girl does, Wings. You're a grown-ass man. Start fucking acting like it. And stop being a fucking vagina all the time.

0:46:50
Unknown_05: And you're so fucking emotional about it.

Unknown_17: Step back and fucking grow some fucking balls.

Unknown_14: Alright, so he mentions faking suicide for attention. What does that mean? I will tell you. Wings, as mentioned in the Medicare video, Wings has shown on Twitter a hollow .45 bullet.

Unknown_14: And said, this is the bullet I will use to kill myself when I run out of money. Now again, that was in 2011. That was Keemstar without a fucking beard. Can you believe it? So that goes to show you how long ago this was. 2011 seems like a fucking eternity.

0:47:24
Unknown_14: And even then he was concerned with his downfall, he was concerned with other people being more successful than him, he was concerned with his money, he was concerned with views, and to this day that kind of insecurity fucking eats at him and makes him a very unhappy person who routinely lashes out at the wrong people for his decline.

0:47:57
Unknown_14: The suicide baiting is a common theme in a lot of what he does, and it makes it hard to feel sorry for him. The moment you start baiting about suicide, it's really hard to take anything somebody says seriously.

Unknown_14: But he remained an integral part of PQA for years after that. And it fell apart when they raised $25,000 for Wings of Redemption to get a vertical sleeve gastronomical surgery, which basically reduces the size of your stomach to an apricot and physically prohibits you from eating too quickly.

0:48:42
Unknown_14: Wings did eventually get that surgery, but not before he left PKA and

Unknown_14: That's been a huge sticking point with his trolls. It happened much slower than it should have because in the United States, you have to be under a certain weight to get the sleeve. If you're too heavy, they can't operate on you. It's not safe. You're at an elevated risk for heart failure if you're over a certain weight. So he would have to lose weight in order to get the surgery in the United States. He opted instead to get the surgery for much cheaper

0:49:20
Unknown_14: and less safely in Tijuana. So he did go to Tijuana, he did get the surgery, and he has lost about 200 pounds since then.

Unknown_14: The stomach sleeve.

Unknown_14: But that's not why he got kicked out of PKA.

Unknown_14: He got kicked out of PKA because Woody has an autistic son. I don't know how disabled, but from what I've heard, Woody's son is very seriously autistic. Not Christian autistic, like so autistic that he needs support basically doing anything.

0:49:53
Unknown_14: And this YouTuber was not on good terms with Woody and had made fun of Woody's son for being autistic.

Unknown_14: And he had beef with Wings, but Wings decided that he was going to be the better man and teach this guy how to build his YouTube channel and gave him gave him tips that were successful in helping him build his channel and get more views and get more money.

Unknown_14: Woody did not take that too kindly. And the final straw was that in order to help Wings lose the weight for the surgery, as far as I know,

0:50:31
Unknown_14: They invited him to go on a camping trip in the nature a survivalist outing with a couple of the guys from PKA and Wings bail on them and the culmination of all these things triggered them to vote him out of PKA and effectively end Any good any good feelings that people had towards him and after that he was essentially just troll bait So

Unknown_04: camping trip mention the finger in the ass mentioned getting kicked out of pk and now he basically just begs for money and streams randomly he doesn't stream consistently by the way despite it being his job and sole source of income he's very spotty about actually showing up on stream and making money uh... his troll community is fucking massive as i mentioned

0:51:33
Unknown_14: And he basically just plays games that he hates, that he admits he hates. He's pretty good at them still. He's the largest Rainbow Six Siege console player on Twitch, I think. Gets about 300 views on average. Basically the size of one of my streams.

Unknown_14: And he makes enough to get by on for the moment. He continually pushes back his goals of quitting streaming. He says he wants to quit constantly. He says he wants to go back to school and become a paramedic or some shit.

Unknown_14: But right now he's just stuck in limbo and he's very unhappy.

Unknown_14: So I guess that's it. I guess we can call the stream a wrap. I guess there's nothing left to talk about. I lied.

0:52:07
Unknown_14: There's a lot more to talk about. I'm gonna fucking win myself going over all this shit.

Unknown_11: If you continue to say Richard whether you're a sub or not, I'm just gonna get rid of you for 24 hours I'm banning anybody trying to give me advice. All right, man, everybody Man these guys do I

0:53:08
Unknown_13: sleep all goddamn day play the same fucking games over and over and over again

Unknown_11: There's a reason I'm 30 goddamn one gray hair gray beard there's a reason I'm 30 goddamn one gray hair

0:54:11
Unknown_13: These guys do

Unknown_14: Welcome, welcome to the flip side. Welcome to the troll-shill side. I am going to get called so many fucking names for the shit I'm about to say, but you know what? I love you. So I have to keep it honest with you. That's the only way I can be.

0:54:42
Unknown_14: Okay, this started innocently enough.

Unknown_14: I binge-watched

Unknown_14: all of the Detractor videos. I have seen every single one by Sean Ranklin and Lord of the Wings. Just, each one is funny. I listen to it constantly while playing Rainbow Six Siege in the background.

Unknown_14: And, my curiosity got piqued.

0:55:15
Unknown_14: Because I noticed, I noticed something funny. In one of the videos, he's getting donations from somebody.

Unknown_14: And you know, when he gets a donation on a stream, the little thing pops up with his icon and it says, uh, you know, it plays that, that sound from what the fuck is the movie called? Where the guy gets raped and he's like squeal like a pig. It plays that clip basically every time he gets money and

Unknown_14: A lot of the messages, and you'll see this in the video I'm about to play, and a lot of the messages, they're flat out saying we're going to charge this back. If you don't know, and I can forgive you for not knowing, charging shit back, deliverance, sorry, oh my god, I'm getting bullied already. It plays the rape scene sound effect from deliverance.

0:55:54
Unknown_14: but the guy he gets charge backs a lot a lot of the nations and they just do the fuck with them and then they charge it back and that that's causes problems if you're somebody who uh... has a has a payment system and collects donations it it it fucks you basically it's very it's actually quite cruel to do that for a variety of reasons and it's not only cruel it's uh... illegal you it's called chargeback fraud if you do something and you get the the goods and you charge it back you're committing something called friendly fraud or chargeback fraud and it is Technically illegal. It's also a very dumb idea to do to a streamer because if you don't know when you give a When you transact with a merchant on PayPal It gives your full docs. It gives your name gives your phone number. It gives your address

0:56:43
Unknown_14: So, it's a very bad idea to use PayPal to troll somebody because it gives you all their information. Now, after months of using chargeback fraud to fuck with Wings of Redemption, he says in one of his videos the name. Because somebody donates a message and he's like, you know what, I bet that's Rob. I bet that's Rob. That sounds like a message from Rob. Rob donates and chargebacks every fucking day. And even when he leaves messages like, I'm charging this back, you fat fuck, eat shit. If he contacts PayPal and tries to fight it, it doesn't matter. He can't fight it back. He's essentially a permanent victim to chargeback fraud. And I don't ever condone a fucking crime to fuck with a locale. If you have to commit a crime and spend money to fuck with a locale, you might also be a locale. That is my philosophy.

0:57:49
Unknown_14: So I look at the chargeback fraud, and when I see that he says this guy's name, the troll videos are called like, Wings of Redemption doxes a donor And it's like, no he didn't, he said the first name of somebody who was committing fucking crimes against him That's not, that's not fucking, full doxing of somebody fucking with you that way is fair to me

Unknown_14: But he didn't. He just said her first name. So the audacity of these people to commit crimes against somebody and then get mad when there's any retaliation whatsoever made me a curious boy. It made me a very curious boy. And I started asking questions. And as it turned out,

0:58:31
Unknown_14: I was not allowed to ask questions. Asking questions to the Wings of Redemption people was verboten. It was not acceptable.

Unknown_14: So, let's listen to some people talking. And I have some timestamps. It's a very long conversation. We're gonna skip through it a little bit.

Unknown_14: All right.

0:59:06
Unknown_14: First three minutes.

Unknown_11: This is the discord that discord allows to constantly be up It's it's ridiculous like I usually don't want people to clip anything But

Unknown_11: Oh, okay.

Unknown_14: Ban anyone who says they have adblock. Ban anyone who says they have adblock. I made one dollar, I lost one describer, so you guys earned three minutes of commercials. That's somebody who's going to be charging that. In fact, in some of these messages that we're going to see during this video, they will say, I am charging this back. So we're going to take a look and listen.

0:59:38
Unknown_11: Make a fucking public chat. I want to talk to you assholes.

Unknown_14: See, look. This is their troll chat. They're watching his stream. You can see this is like the rules and announcements area that nobody can post in. But the admins are watching, and they're addressing him in the corner.

Unknown_11: I want you to look right here, right? Look here and listen. Here's how this huge channel just appeared. They're so secretive because they know what they're doing is fucking shady as shit.

1:00:11
Unknown_14: Okay, somebody's mentioning, because again, I'm now, I'm being a neutral, I'm being a chaotic neutral. So I gotta, let me explain something and I'll get into detail. Maybe he should get a real job.

Unknown_14: Excellent stellar idea. Let's think on that a little bit. I have a footnote, I already have it written down. Let's talk about that in a second.

1:00:43
Unknown_11: David, he invited me into the chat, yeah.

Unknown_15: The towering intellectuals

1:01:26
Unknown_09: My mic's not muted.

Unknown_11: Where's my little thing at? Oh, my mic. You have not permission. There we go. My mic should be working now.

Unknown_14: Okay, see they've isolated him in this trusted channel, just so you see it.

Unknown_10: So how old are you?

Unknown_10: What? How old are you?

Unknown_12: This is actually pretty funny, what he says.

1:01:59
Unknown_14: Hey, stop buffering, fucker. Goddamn Swiss proxy.

Unknown_14: Play the fucking clip! Do I have to turn off my proxy? Fuck off.

Unknown_11: Are you taking your shoes off to count with your toes? Like, how old are you?

Unknown_11: They got me muted right now so I can't hear your talk. They got him deafened, not muted.

Unknown_14: So that they can talk to each other without him hearing them.

Unknown_11: Because they're trying to formulate a plan.

1:02:31
Unknown_11: You know, they talk about me, about censorship, but look how they go about their business because they know what they're doing is borderline illegal.

Unknown_06: Did you guys hear me? Yeah.

Unknown_06: You're cyberbullying me.

Unknown_14: All right, I think that's the end of that part. I have several timestamps. I'm gonna go through them, about eight of them.

Unknown_14: Wings is gonna use language like cyberbullying and toxic and harassment, and that language is kinda gay, and it kinda diminishes my ability to feel sympathy for him at all. But we're gonna look here and listen a little bit, just a little bit. We're gonna entertain this conversation. 1228, I say. Better be right, Josh, you fucker.

1:03:13
Unknown_11: Now, it's not even cheap entertainment. You guys are fucking sad. You're grown-ass adults that obsess over my life.

Unknown_11: It's what you're... I'm not trolling you, bro. What do you mean? You know, you're trying to... You know, you're way... You're way pad. Trolling is fun. When you troll somebody, it's supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be almost like you both get to laugh. I do not have fun.

Unknown_11: No, no, no, no, I'm just let you know what trolling actually is, right? Trolling's when you both get to laugh. Trolling's like, oh, I put a whoopee cushion under, I put a whoopee, I put a whoopee cushion on your seat and you sound like you farted. It's like, oh, you got me. That's trolling. That's what trolling is supposed to be.

1:03:47
Unknown_05: Trolling is supposed to be like that.

Unknown_11: What you're doing is being an asshole. What you're doing is being a cyber bully, an asshole. You're being a degenerate.

Unknown_02: What's the definition of me?

Unknown_11: I'm a fat motherfucker that hated his life for a long time. And you got to see... It doesn't matter if I took it out on others, right?

1:04:22
Unknown_16: Took his past tense, take his right now.

Unknown_11: I don't take it out on others. Who do I take it out on? The chat, your fans. Every person that got banned today said something that they parodied from you guys.

Unknown_14: There's one thing I couldn't find I heard it on my first listen through but I could not find it again He's asked and I'm pretty sure it's around this point. He asked somebody in the chat What do you want? And he says literally says I want to make your life a living hell and it's just like how fucking gay How fucking gay if your goal with this shit isn't to have fun and and

1:04:58
Unknown_14: To laugh at shit. If your goal is literally to ruin somebody, you're kind of fucking gay. And you're kind of in it for the wrong fucking reasons. It's like... That's just status shit. That's fucking pathetic.

Unknown_04: Alright, 1831.

Unknown_11: Like, let me ask you a question.

Unknown_04: Let me ask- This is strictly for Wings of- Hey, like, no, no.

Unknown_11: This- Let me ask- This is Wings of Racism. If I stream 12 hours a day, would you be there 12 hours a day?

1:05:41
Unknown_11: Because you're here almost every time, no matter what time I stream during the day. If I stream at 4 o'clock in the morning, you're there. If I stream at 11 o'clock in the morning, you're there. You want me to break your matrix, bro?

Unknown_15: You want me to break your matrix? I'll break your reality.

Unknown_15: I love this guy. I love this guy. Bro, half this Discord has that PSN account, bro. There's like 30, 40 heads, bro.

Unknown_16: That's an understanding.

Unknown_15: You think I fucking sit there? Oh, motherfucker.

Unknown_15: Come on, bro.

Unknown_11: You hear that force fucking laugh?

1:06:16
Unknown_14: The question is, um...

Unknown_14: If he streamed 12 hours a day, would he sit there and watch 12 hours worth of streams? And the answer is probably yes. But his answer in response is that forced fucking laugh and, oh, I'm sharing my account. Like, I don't know if that's true or not, but like, I mean, I can't imagine that. I mean, even if it is true, imagine that there are 30 people sharing a PSN account so that they can puppet this fucking, this identity of Lord of the Wings.

1:06:50
Unknown_14: Like, their image and shit is so important to them. Even that's just fucking gay. 1954.

Unknown_04: You wouldn't. As long as you stop e-begging.

Unknown_11: You see, look at my fucking camera right now. I know you're looking. You see I've lost hundreds of pounds, right? You see that.

Unknown_03: Get on the scale. Get on the scale. I'm never gonna get on the scales because you guys are fucking assholes.

1:07:28
Unknown_03: Because here's the fact here's what will happen, right?

Unknown_11: You will use it against me because you claim it only get because you claim you only use what I give you Here's what will happen. Here's here's what here's what will happen No, here's what will happen You will start micromanaging every day of my life

Unknown_11: how much I should be weight towards somebody that uses Optimize. I don't want that. All that's going to do is make me depressed and fuck with me on a human level. That's actually a decent point for him to make.

1:08:02
Unknown_14: I'm going to take his side on that. His argument is that he's not going to give exact numbers for how much he weighs because then the trolls are just going to say, well, you should be at this. You should be at this. If you're losing this amount of weight per week, you should be at this. And, I mean, they would totally fucking do it. And the crazy thing is, in a lot of these videos, I see in the comments, especially in like the Sean Ranklin video, where he's talking about his surgery and how it went, and how his visit to Mexico went, everybody in the comments is like, Sean, you did this. You did this, Sean. You pushed him. You pushed him to get the surgery. He hates us. He calls us the detractors. He says that we're bad people. But we pushed him to better himself. It's like, no you fucking didn't. No you fucking didn't. It almost feels like they're coping. Like they're mentally coping. They know that they're fucking losers.

1:08:33
Unknown_14: And they know that this kind of obsession with one fat fuck is really unhealthy and looks bad on them. So they masquerade it by saying, no actually we're the good guys and we're pushing them to better themselves by being bullies.

1:09:06
Unknown_14: Do you really need to make that logical jump? Do you really need to tell yourself that you're the good guy to justify what you do? It should just be funny. But no, they have to do that. Because they know that this fucking involvement is really fucking gay. Alright, 2858.

Unknown_14: And there is some shit in this. People are going to say when this comes out on YouTube, they're going to say that I cherry-picked. Obviously, I'm cherry-picking. This is a 45 fucking minute long video. There's a lot of shit in this that Williams looks dumb saying, but I'll show you something at the end.

1:09:47
Unknown_03: I'm not- Okay, let's back- He's- he- Wings asked him, what would make you stop?

Unknown_14: You're fucking with me on a personal level.

Unknown_14: I'm studying to be a lawyer. This is just my hobby, he says.

Unknown_03: I'm not- Why don't you just stop, dude?

Unknown_11: Like, literally, what happens if I end up killing myself over shit like this?

Unknown_14: Okay, yes, he's suicide baiting.

Unknown_14: It's a good thought. I want you to hear his reaction though.

Unknown_14: What happens if I end up killing myself and the lawyer, the guy studying to be a lawyer in Canada says, well, I'm glad I live in Canada.

1:10:31
Unknown_14: Like, wow, fucking guy.

Unknown_11: I'm just saying like, like you're doing stuff that affects me on a personal level and like, I've thought about it. I have.

Unknown_11: And it's not, come on dude. It's literally, you got people really putting hits out with SWAT teams.

Unknown_02: No one should have done that to you. No one should have ever done that to you. Yeah, I mean, that does happen though, and you create that, and you are partly responsible for that.

Unknown_02: No, no, I'm not going to put the blame on you.

Unknown_11: No, no, no, no, no, no. You create that environment that causes that to happen.

1:11:06
Unknown_11: NO I DIDN'T CREATE IT, YOU CREATED- Okay, what they're arguing about right there is, um, they are saying... Oh, you know what, this is the next time clip, so we're just gonna continue.

Unknown_14: But, what happened is he's been swatted, and he's saying that because of the videos and how you edit them to make him look like the worst person ever, and I'll- I'll ex- Actually, you know what, let me just fucking show you this right now. Because I went to talk to these people, and I want to show you, um, this shit.

Unknown_14: So what happened is, Wings of Redemption did stream a year ago, or two years ago, with a 16-year-old girl. And he talked about his penis while streaming with them. And since then, the trolls have said, with conviction that he is a pedophile. And to me, that is the strongest shit you can say about anybody. That is the strongest thing you could ever possibly say about anybody. And the way I describe it, I think I describe it in here, is I describe the accusation that somebody is a pedophile like a loaded gun. You do not point it at somebody unless you intend to kill them.

1:11:48
Unknown_14: And I asked them at the end, I'm saying, if you truly believe that he is a pedophile, you should be able to say that you want him to die. Because if somebody is a pedophile, I want them to die. So do you feel strongly enough about him, with the evidence that you have, that you think he's a pedophile, that you would want him to drop fucking dead?

1:12:23
Unknown_14: And they didn't answer. They could not say that they wanted him to die. And it's like, it should be easy. If you genuinely feel this guy is a danger to innocent children,

Unknown_14: You should be able to say, I want him to die. And yes, I'm aware that the age of consent outside of the US is usually, like, 16.

Unknown_14: So him, like, he didn't even hit on them. He just talked about his fucking dick. Now, he's old. He's, like, 32, and they're, like, 16. Yeah, that's gross. That's kind of creepy. It's cringey. I've listened to the logs. It's really fucking cringey. But is he a pedophile? Is he into prepubescent children? No.

1:12:56
Unknown_14: I don't think so. But they say it. They say it to anybody who will listen. Why? Because it fucking hurts them. And when you tell people that somebody's a pedophile and they believe it, they do shit like swatting. And that can kill somebody. And if you kill somebody over a fucking video game thing, like, you can't fucking justify that shit.

1:13:31
Unknown_14: I even tell them, I say, I'm not pro-wings. If you think I'm doing this because I'm a wings white knight, you're fucking dumb. And this guy freaks out and says, you could be a pro-wings troll. Your love for overweight pedophiles is repulsive. You probably rape kids too. So if you defend in any capacity Wings of Redemption to the honorary trolls of Wings of Redemption, you are a pedophile. The Elon Musk strategy.

Unknown_14: Back to our stream.

Unknown_11: Decided to create it you decided to create it by following other people That guy that voice you're hearing right there that guy's over 40 years old When Woody's gamer tag went on his rant on painkiller already ice Poseidon was the guest on the show.

1:14:21
Unknown_00: I just want to remind everybody of that

Unknown_11: I would also like to remind everybody of that, that it doesn't matter Ice Poseidon was on the show because you guys created that environment. The police, the FBI couldn't find this guy. The FBI. I was in contact with the FBI for at least two weeks trying to find this guy.

Unknown_11: So that could mean it could be Mr. Enigma. I would like to remind that. A guy that charts my fucking pa- You chart everything I do. You go and look at everything I say. You go through hundreds of hundreds of hours of 11 years worth of stream content to do your little hobby. Why couldn't it be Mr. Enigma?

1:14:59
Unknown_00: I don't have a hobby. I don't run any of these channels. I'm just- I just watch. I'm like Webby. I just watch. I don't run any of this stuff. But the fact is that I can't isolate the fact that it could be Webby59.

Unknown_00: And also, you accused me of charging back on you. I've never charged back on anybody, which you did to your credit. You did call back and apologize for which I give you credit on that. But, you know, I don't have anything to do with this. I just I just watch.

Unknown_02: Well, Gordy, we also have six different posts of you threatening suicide.

1:15:31
Unknown_14: Okay, and that, uh, this one guy talks as if he's in a fucking pool room, or if everything he says is the most Jewish thing ever. Um, I have, I have no, I have no explanation for this. 2016, 2017, before any of this started.

Unknown_02: Before there was a single troll attack.

Unknown_11: Well, it's funny that a 500 pound man that has nothing to live for would feel bad about himself.

Unknown_11: I'm trying to, motherfucker!

Unknown_14: That's what you don't understand! Okay, this is important. The guy says, as many people in the chat have said that I've noted, go out into the world and conquer. Why are you sitting here miserable? Go outside. I'm trying to, but you guys stop me every time I get a chance to try!

1:16:10
Unknown_02: How do we stop you from going out of the house?

Unknown_11: Well, how do you stop me from going? You said you had a job lined up outside.

Unknown_02: Look, look.

Unknown_11: There's a guy, I don't know which one it is, but he goes by the name of Matthew Otwell. He's been- This is important too. I don't know who that is.

Unknown_02: That's Luke.

Unknown_11: You, like, what did you do the last time I clicked- What did you go and do when I clicked on the bar of my Facebook account? What did you do?

1:16:41
Unknown_15: What?

Unknown_11: There was five names that appeared on that list. What did you go and do with those five names?

Unknown_02: What do you mean, the ladies?

Unknown_11: Yes.

Unknown_02: Your lady friends?

Unknown_14: Like, what did you do? Listen, OK, he's asking them what he did last time he went on Facebook and showed on stream accidentally the names of some people. And you'll notice Mr. Echo does not have the capacity or fortitude to tell what he's done.

1:17:14
Unknown_11: Kunkelin, what did you do?

Unknown_02: Let's go back. Which lady friends? You mean when it posted the people you're talking to on Facebook? Your new girlfriend?

Unknown_11: What did you use? You know, those were my girlfriends. None of those were my girlfriend at the time, but what you did is you took those names and you went to each and every one of them and and sly to them say stating that I was their boyfriend and even and there was one of them that has an anxiety problem bad and she's married right and that married person was actually friends with a girl I was actually seeing at the time and

1:17:52
Unknown_11: And she had a mental breakdown at work, and that ended up making the person I was actually going out with break up with me because she got scared.

Unknown_15: What's with all the pity, dude? Shut up.

Unknown_11: That's not pity, dude. That's fucked up.

Unknown_02: And what else did you used to do?

Unknown_11: What else did you used to do? You used to go to my personal... No, you used to go on your personal Facebook, my personal Facebook and message any girl you go to you went to every female on my Facebook regardless if they related to me or not and tried to say that they were fat or that they or if they were a guy that was fat that they used to smoke crack like this is what you do for a living no no no this is what you do for a living

1:18:46
Unknown_15: We came here to cry about this. Is that what I'm?

Unknown_11: No, no, no, that's not a hobby. You're taking it way beyond a hobby.

Unknown_14: So the reaction to, you went down my Facebook page and you called everybody I knew a crackhead.

Unknown_14: You got me dumped. So they're telling him on one hand, go out into the world. We're just trolling you to make you a better person. We're encouraging you out the door. On the other hand, this motherfucker is ringing up every goddamn person he's ever spoken to and trying to fuck with them. So, the whole narrative that we're not really stalking you, we're trying to encourage you as ex-fans, as scorned fans, we just want what's best for you, it's all bullshit. And the reaction to him saying, yeah, you know, you've successfully fucked with me in a number of ways, is, oh, why are you asking for pity?

1:19:17
Unknown_14: Like, he's not, I mean, he could be, for donations, for money, he could be getting pity.

Unknown_14: But I think it's a fair point to make. Maybe you disagree.

Unknown_14: All right, 3412. We've got a couple more left. It's really dense towards the end here.

Unknown_02: Is it really worth it? Is the $40,000 a year really worth it?

1:20:01
Unknown_14: The question is, if you can't hear, is the $40,000 a year you make worth it?

Unknown_11: If I could do something else and make the kind of money I make here, I would go do it.

Unknown_16: A year ago, I could barely walk to the mailbox and back.

1:20:36
Unknown_14: So you hear the silence there. They're asking him, why didn't you get a job last year when you were making even less money? So that's kind of a weird thing to think about. In 2017, he wasn't making that much money. In 2018, he's making more money than he was in 2017, despite things considerably getting worse for him.

Unknown_14: So the question is, why didn't you get a job last year? The answer is, I was going to get a job after I got my surgery, which happened this year.

Unknown_11: If I was in the state if I see 3510, this is the last one

1:21:12
Unknown_11: I'm not harassing anybody. Like, you guys don't understand. Like, what Wings of Obscenity does to me, that's harassment. That's what harassment looks like. Me going like, man, you gotta do better in Rainbow Six, man, you know, like, that's not harassment. That's not. What I said the day- Okay, I said this year.

Unknown_14: I mean, I mean 2018, fuck off.

Unknown_11: Stream to a kid is an harassment. Making troll discords is harassment.

Unknown_16: Again I was not on Lexpro at the time I obviously needed Lexapro. Did you?

1:21:53
Unknown_14: Was it not? So when Wings of Redemption brings up, and this is the last point in this discord that I'll show, brings up the fact that they genuinely fucking stalk and harass him, what they do is not ostensibly, it is actually stalking and harassing the guy. Maybe you say that's rich coming from me, but maybe it takes one to know one.

Unknown_14: Their response is, you get mad at people in video games. it's just like I don't know if you tell somebody to uninstall the game and Finding a comprehensive list of every woman that a guy's ever talking to and calling them fat whores addicted to crack Not really the same the same kind of thing. It's a It's a little bit. It's a little bit different. Maybe you disagree But you know, I'm right. Okay, that's the end of that back to ban world

1:22:30
Unknown_04: Okay, now we're going to be talking about Lean so let me actually let me show you this Let me go back to the all-purpose edge.

Unknown_14: You see that channel down there lean He used to be one of these trolls used to be a

1:23:10
Unknown_14: And my rabbit hole into this world started with asking a question.

Unknown_14: Who is Lean? And the answer I got to that question was...

Unknown_14: Ha-ha-ha-ha, ha-ha-ha, lol, you mad bro, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, mad bro, mad, piss, piss is on shithead, piss, ha-ha-ha, piss, piss, pss, la-mow, ha-ha-ha, ha-ha-ha-ha, lol, piss.

1:23:47
Unknown_14: And that, my friends, is the fucking moment I decided, holy shit, these people are fucking crazy.

Unknown_14: These people are fucking nuts. This is not just some random fucking faggot from their Discord. This is a trusted user. There's like 12 of these people. It's a Discord with like a thousand motherfuckers, and this motherfucker is at the tippy top. He's up there in the upper echelons of the trolldom. This shit... and...

Unknown_14: It's just nuts. We had a conversation. I was just like, hey, you know, I'm asking about this, asking about this. What's the troll discord like? What's the issue with liens? And then eventually he just says, you are pedophile. You are pedophile. Fuck you pedophile. And he just loses his fucking mind.

1:24:27
Unknown_14: And

Unknown_14: If you think that's nuts, somebody sent me screenshots from- Now, I had more of them. I've lost some of them, unfortunately. But... These- This is Lord of the Wings. This is one of the voices in that Discord. This is the guy that runs it.

Unknown_14: And he runs the second largest trolling channel. He's the guy with the PSN with 30 trolls ready for 24-hour ops to tag and troll Wings of Redemption, no matter what hour he streams. Lean is a fag. Lean's still got Richard's dick in his mouth. There's another conversation where he's like, ban anyone who says Lean, which you might remember him going, Wings of Redemption going, Uh, yeah, ban- ban anybody who says lol, ban anybody laughing, ban anybody who says the name Richard, uh, ban anybody who says the name Malene, to the point where when I was in there, and I accidentally said the name Leen, I got a message from their bot saying, hey Josh, please don't use bad words. Well, what the fuck? How is that- how is that any different? It's the same motherfucking thing! Don't- don't say- ban anybody who says the name- like, fuck you, motherfucker!

1:25:37
Unknown_14: So I talked to him, and I'm asking people around, I'm tagging people. I know that Memology 101 was in there. I sent Memology an email like, hey, what's your involvement with this? He completely disavowed it, says he doesn't have much to do with it at all.

Unknown_14: And then this happened.

Unknown_14: When I was in there asking people about Lean, a couple days after I spoke to Lean, people were like, well, you know, he started to monetize his videos. He stole artwork from the community to use as a thumbnail for his videos, and then he tried to monetize it with AdSense. I'm like, oh, is that it?

1:26:14
Unknown_14: And they're like, no, he makes him look positive in his videos. Well, fucking goddamn, that sounds awful. Let's let's look at this. Let's look at one of these D.S. positive videos that Lean put out on Wings of Redemption.

Unknown_16: Fuck, it's got me. Need a medic.

Unknown_11: Man, fuck, man, why can't you just help me?

1:26:53
Unknown_11: Seriously.

Unknown_11: All you're doing, I got two guys running behind me shooting at all fucking times. It's ridiculous.

Unknown_08: How? Come on.

Unknown_11: It's ridiculous, man.

Unknown_14: So just as a clarification, we're only watching like two minutes of this. But this is the day before Christmas, or the day after Christmas, and he's getting stream sniped. He's really getting fucked with. People are doing the things they were doing in the World War II modern Call of Duty. And this is the World War II Battlefield game, because he quit Call of Duty. And he's basically getting stream sniped. He's getting fucked with. And this is the highlight video of that.

1:27:30
Unknown_11: And he's still getting pissed off. You can't do anything when like two of the three slots on your team are just fucking. But what happens?

Unknown_11: It's just, it's fucking stupid. Like all their fucking effort, they still couldn't stop me from going 40 and 10.

Unknown_11: After all their fucking effort, they still couldn't do it.

Unknown_14: And this is what pisses them off. In his videos, if Wings of Redemption gets trolled the fuck out but still ends up 40-10 with a 4-1 KD, a very, very good score, he'll include it in his highlight clips. And that is verboten. It is not allowed. If he does well in the video game, you cut that shit out. You leave that on the clipping floor, motherfucker. That's unacceptable. And if you are a part of the club, if you want to be a part of this trolling discord, you better leave those fucking good bits of the stream out because it makes him look like not a pedophile, rapist, super monster that wants to get grandma to fish shit out of his ass. The only acceptable things to put in these streams are things where he's getting mad. And that is why lean is not a part of their fucking community.

1:28:46
Unknown_14: And when I found this out and was talking to them about lean days after the fact, I had talked to him, they show me.

Unknown_14: smoking gun lean is not just making these videos boys and girls he's making he's hired he has hired listen this context lean has hired people to dox people in the discord oh my god

Unknown_14: Oh my god. So Lean, Lean's a doxer. He's a doxer. Very bad. Very bad. He's a doxer. And the video where this context comes from is just a series of Discord logs between Lean and Richard Jordan. Trust you, the last thing I will do, you fucking rat, dude, they come from a site. They, the people he's hiring, they come from a site. Which made someone commit suicide. You think that's okay? They are coming for you. Don't worry, Leen says. That's all that matters. Who is? You'll see you soon.

1:29:27
Unknown_14: Very ominous. I have never trolled someone to the extreme.

Unknown_14: To the extreme, that sounds like a Christian quote. I've never trolled to the extreme. He says, time to taste your own medicine. You're helping a guy who's a pedo. Oh geez, pedophile doxers. Who the fuck could this be? These aren't your ordinary 4chan trolls. They'll find out anything about you. He wants to dox people in the server who aren't even there. Oh my God, this guy's a monster. He's a monster. He's an unhinged pedo doxer. Oh fuck. He wants to... If that's, if what you have done is okay, what they will do is okay too, you will now become to content.

1:30:01
Unknown_14: I haven't doxxed with two Xs, anyone. And you're basically encouraging this behavior. Look, like, looks like someone doesn't want the world to know who they are. Should've thought about that before acting like the big, I am, I'll make sure you're at the top of the list, bit of karma for you. Thanks, I've screenshotted this convo. Boom, got him. It's erver for you, Lean says.

1:30:38
Unknown_14: And what I do takes a couple hours every other day. What you do takes all day every day. Nice try, but no. You do yours every day at 4 a.m. Also, what I do has made me $450 in the last 13 days. What you do is for free, lol.

Unknown_14: Yeah, just remain silent. It's honestly for the best. Better luck next time. Weren't you going to donate that to Wings? I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I want with it. Well, goddamn, we have a motherfucking doxxer.

1:31:13
Unknown_14: And who could that be?

Unknown_14: From the previous day, yo, this is important. And this was not in the video, this is what Lean sent to me. You know a dude called Josh? No. Okay, they are from one of those 4chan sites. Just had to warn you because the guy is a pedo asking people for info about wings. Shit. The fact that you don't want me to talk to them just makes me want to talk to them more, so thanks for that. No! Trust me! So, me asking a couple of questions

1:31:48
Unknown_14: Made this guy run- these guys hate each other. They made him run to fucking- like, don't- don't fucking do it. Don't you talk to Josh. He's a doxxer. He's killed- he's from the Kiwi farms. He's killed people.

Unknown_14: And when I see this, I'm just thinking, oh shit, this is fucking good. Now, I have to condemn Lien. I'm not gonna go out and try to doxx these people. I'm having my fun right now. This is what's fun to me.

Unknown_14: and he goes into like chat and shit and says when people respond to or saying that he's trying to dox people he says when the trolls become trolled and it's like I'm not out to get anybody I literally just wanted to ask some fucking questions and somehow

1:32:36
Unknown_14: Like, I get made out to be this fucking monster, this fucking giant, out to fucking crush the bones of Englishmen. And I was like, I didn't fucking do nothing, I was just asking questions!

Unknown_14: So this is an argument, I've not read this before. Oh, this is in response to the video. He says, imagine actually believing this. You guys got trolled very fucking easily considering you are trolls yourself.

Unknown_14: And he says, so you're saying this is not you in the Discord? That's me in the Discord trolling Benzwings. Hence why he only shows you a few screenshots, not the whole conversation. Why do you think no big channels uploaded it? Because it's bullshit. Ain't that sheep like you to dislike me? Good luck and have fun. It's like, well, number one, I don't like being used as a fucking tool. So I don't appreciate that from Lean.

1:33:15
Unknown_14: But I get in there and I try talking to them, right? I try having a normal fucking conversation with them. And after a couple hours, you know, people are freaking the fuck out. People are like tagging the admins, like, like ban this guy. He's a danger.

Unknown_14: Where is it?

Unknown_14: Where is it? Oh, did I not screen cap it? I'm such a dummy if I didn't screen cap this. Check my desktop real quick.

1:33:48
Unknown_14: Ah, da, da, da, da, da.

Unknown_14: So one guy was like genuinely freaking- Oh!

Unknown_14: Oh, here. Where the fuck did I put this?

Unknown_04: Oh.

Unknown_04: Yeah, there we go. Okay. So, I was uh...

Unknown_14: I was, people PMed Lean asking him not to talk to me, threatening him. There are no secrets, we aren't hostile, he says. And this guy like fucking rants and raves about me being a pedophile. And then he says, how do you know that? How do you know that Lean was warned not to talk to you? And I said, because he told me. I got a hold of him and he showed me what people from the Discord were trying to do to abort people talking to me. And he's like, you talked to the rat? And that's what they use, because they can't say the word lead in the server. They just use the rat emoji. It's like, they aren't around. We can handle this for now. And he's pinging the admins, like, we got to get this guy out. He's talking. He's talking to Lane. You can't do that. It's against the rules. And he clarifies that he's never met a person named Josh that he likes, which is very offensive, actually.

1:34:56
Unknown_14: And then this is him talking about the Kiwi farms, I guess. And he's like, doxing is legit? And I'm like, yeah, it's legal in the US. And he's like, how about we dox you? So I give him my address. And he's like, come on, dude. And they're all mad because doxing is the biggest sin in the entire universe. Nobody should dox ever. But then, of course, he comes out and he says, how about we dox you? And everybody's upset. And then this guy freaks out and tags the moderator like, please, he's a rat and a spy. Josh needs to be dealt with like real talk.

Unknown_14: And I found this all very funny. Like whenever I walk into the room and it just catches on fire and everybody shits themselves. And it's like, all I did was ask questions. I just ask questions. I don't understand why I can't ask questions.

1:35:33
Unknown_14: So I get fucking banned, right? But luckily I've got a double agent in there.

Unknown_14: So they're pinging me still. This is the guy that freaked out and tells me to piss on shithead, whatever the fuck that means. And he's like, what's your favorite Marvel superhero? And this guy tags me saying, are you there? And they realize that he got banned. Now, I got banned very stealthily-like. And it's time to introduce to you how I don't have more logs of this shit.

1:36:06
Unknown_14: Whenever anybody says anything that the admins would think would look bad on them,

Unknown_14: They do, okay, here's what you do in Discord to completely destroy any evidence of something. You go to the channels on Discord, you right click it and click clone channel.

Unknown_14: Then, you go back to the other channel, the original, and you delete it. And rename the clone channel to the old channel's name. And that will completely destroy the entire history. So as soon as I got banned, they fucking obliterated the history of the general chat. Because they did not want any spy, any rat, recording what they had said to me.

1:36:51
Unknown_14: And...

Unknown_14: Then, remember that guy trying to dox me? The address he gave doesn't check out.

Unknown_14: Ban anyone mentioning rules. It wasn't the right one. I found the real one, but I won't share. Oh jeez, he's onto me.

Unknown_14: I'm not looking, I'm looking at posts about him, I'm using other means, verifiable means, government means, legit stuff, not random posts. He has a problem with me because I wasn't very nice to Josh, even though, yes, Josh is a pedophile.

1:37:26
Unknown_14: The info talking about his family on the wikis is wrong too. The names are wrong. So this guy is so suspect of me talking to Lean, he is now trying to dox my entire extended family because he is upset that I've talked to Lean, apparently.

Unknown_14: Or that I don't think that Richard is... Why do I call him Richard? That's not his name. I've heard him referred to as Richard so many times I think Wings of Redemption's name is Richard now. Oh Jesus, I've got brain damage. But they're so mad about me not thinking he's a pedophile that they're gonna try to cause me problems. Good fucking luck with that shit.

1:38:03
Unknown_14: What was I gonna do?

Unknown_14: I had more.

Unknown_14: I had something else. I had a coup de grâce. Oh, OK. I've been saving this one. This is the very end. This is the last thing I've got to say.

Unknown_14: So one of the issues, two things. One of the issues is that they are mad that he makes money. Now, those two videos I showed you earlier, the raps, were composed by a guy called Liquid Richard. And Liquid Richard is, of course, a member of that Discord. And despite the fact they kicked Lean Out for making money, You can see right here in the Bandcamp, buy the digital album for $5. So even though he's mad that Lean monetizes his videos, he's still selling his fucking rap songs for money on Bandcamp. Sure, you can listen to them for free. I mean, you can watch Lean shit for free. I know I do, with Adblock. But, I mean, he's still making money off this shit, and apparently capitalism is wrong, so these fucking communists are really hypocritical. Maybe it's to fund their commune, but who knows? I find that just a little bit distasteful if you're gonna throw somebody out for that shit. Now, somebody asked a question.

1:39:10
Unknown_14: If this is so stressful to Wings, why doesn't he just get a job? Just get a job, Wings. Just get a job. Let me show you why Wings can't just get a job.

Unknown_14: This is owned, this is made by one of the trolls. Copyright Wings of Obesity Productions. All rights reserved. Shout out to Sean Ranklin, Lord of the Wings, Black Sal, Liquid Richard, Whale Watching Enthusiasts. Name that discord.

Unknown_14: So this is a site, jordijordan.org slash resume, and they do this shit. Everything they do is designed to make it so that if people were to Google his name, Google any of his aliases, it would turn up shit like this. Google Jordi Jordan resume and you find this shit. So on one hand, they're like, we're just trolling you to push you to be better. We're just trying to get you out there into the real world. We're only concerned for your health. We're trying to get you out there. Bullshit, because those same fucking people go out of their way to buy websites, buy hosting, buy domain names, and throw this shit together so that this guy cannot even fucking quit. He's stuck to Twitch because they've actively gone out of their way to ruin his life. And then when he still streams, because that's all he's fucking got, They say, why are you still streaming, bro? Go get a life.

1:40:28
Unknown_14: And I think that's a little bit despicable. Now, you might be interested in hearing that I brought this up with a few people. Like, don't you think this is a bit mean-spirited? Don't you think this is a little bit fucking mean for some guy whose biggest sin is that he's shit at video games, chimped out at his partners, and said the word nigga like once? And I brought this up a couple times. I pointed to this site exactly. You go to jordijordan.org right now. Oh, what's this? Welcome to jordijordan.org. This domain is part free of charge with name silo.com. Fucking gone. It's just fucking gone. Like, oh.

1:41:01
Unknown_14: I guess they agreed. I guess I made my point real fucking persuasive-like. Because they fucking took that shit down in a goddamn hurry.

Unknown_14: So, one other final thing that I'll bring up. One of the things that he, that I'm probably, I'm not sure myself how I feel about this, but I'm gonna throw it out there.

1:41:40
Unknown_14: Jordy has been invited to show up on PKA again every so often. I think for like the 400th episode he was invited back. PKA went off to become a very, very successful podcast and each of them are making like half a million dollars each. Like that little podcast that Wing started up with Woody is now raking in more fucking money than you can imagine.

Unknown_14: And he got shit for it. When they kicked him off, he got shit for starting it up with them. And even people in the Discord, when they asked about it, they said that they stopped listening when Wings was gone. Because even though they bully the fuck out of Wings, they're cruel to him, he was the best part of the PK, according to a lot of people. When the third guy got voted off a week later, they paid him $10,000 to get out, but they didn't pay Wings anything. So Wings has said repeatedly that if he were to show up on PKA, they would have to pay him $10,000, which is the same amount they paid the other guy to leave. Now, if some of you may be familiar with a case between Maddox, the owner of the best page in the universe, and Dick Masterson, the current host of The Dick Show.

1:42:21
Unknown_14: A very similar thing happened between Dick Masterson and Maddox. They started up a podcast called The Biggest Problem in the Universe, and for 100 plus episodes, they would argue, and it was a very, very, very successful podcast. And they split ways. Maddox now hosts The Best Debate in the Universe, and Dick hosts The Dick Show. But there was an issue.

1:43:04
Unknown_14: Because they did not have a formal legal arrangement when they entered into the podcast, when they split, it was, Maddox tried to claim he owned it 100%, and Dick Masterson said, no, we started it together, so it's a 50-50 informal partnership. And they went to copyright court, and the court found that, yes, Dick did own half of the company, half of the intellectual property. If Wings of Redemption were to take PKA to court over the brand and had done it timely, I believe he would have won a third of the business. So make of that what you will. That's just my I'm-not-a-lawyer opinion. But I do think he got fucked out of that. And, you know, you could say he's justified for it because he helped that guy that made fun of the Woody's autistic kid. He's a dickhole in general. I'm not defending Wings. I genuinely think he's a piece of shit, and half of his problems would be over if he just acted like a man. Like, if we switch bodies, God fucking forbid, and I woke up as Wings of Redemption, I would go back to streaming and I would just take the shit on the chin. Like, he could make a good thing out of what he's got right now, but he doesn't because he's a baby. So I'm not defending him, but I am saying that he's been fucked. And a lot of the people fucking with him are in no way, shape, or form better than Wings of Redemption, especially the 40-year-old man who runs that fucking Discord. You should be ashamed of yourself.

1:44:21
Unknown_14: And that's all I got to say.

Unknown_14: The moment, the moment, even, I had, when I entered into this, I just wanted to ask some questions. I probably would have gotten bored. I'd probably be talking about John Bulla right now, who's currently detained against his fucking will in a mental hospital because he keeps jerking off to celebrities. I'd probably be talking about John Bulla because he's straight and a man and not fat. Instead, I went with the fat guy because I started asking questions and these people freaked the fuck out on me. And I can't even imagine what's going to happen because of the stream. Like, are they going to DDoS my fucking website? Are they going to harass my mom? Like, who the fuck knows?

1:45:01
Unknown_14: But I welcome it, because Sunset Kojima happened. And Sunset Kojima had a gatekeeping position over Darkside Phil for, like, half a decade, and now

Unknown_14: all that people remember about it was that the owner was a shut-in schizophrenic who tried to hold the reins over everybody that he associated with so I welcome it it's just a and if you if you DMCA my fucking video uh make sure you provide your real legal name and address because we'll have fun together and with that with that my friends I thank you for all the super chats I thank you for all the stickers and shit and the subscriptions and shit

1:46:04
Unknown_14: I had a lot of fun with this stream, actually. It felt good. This stream is less of an informative video about Wings of Redemption and more of just me ranting and looking like a white knight, which I'm sure will do tons for my credibility.

Unknown_14: All right. Thank you for watching. Just an update on my video or my YouTube channel. I am still copyright struck, and they have not forwarded my complaint yet, which is fucking bullshit.

Unknown_14: Eat shit, Jonathan Yaniv. Eat shit.

1:46:36
Unknown_14: And with that, I think we're good for the outro song.

Unknown_14: Next stream. I have no fucking idea. I'll try I'll try again desperately to find a straight white man Who's not fat to do a video on because I still owe you that I promised I promised no more fat people and I lied I'm a liar All right, take it easy

1:47:44
Unknown_06: Yeah. do